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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 11:21 PM Original message |
Three Japanese nuclear reactors experience earthquake!!!!!! |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well, you can't blame people for being a little nervous after the last time |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. and it was (the monster) a victim of radiation poisoning wasn't it? |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Beat me to it! n/t |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. You have a point there. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's easy to joke about something so far away |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 05:35 AM Response to Original message |
6. One more thing |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
7. So bloody what? They're designed to take it. |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. You need to understand I was being sarcastic. |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. if they are designed to take it, I guess they failed |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. Uh, actually, the reactor core ruptured |
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DODI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #46 |
84. Where did you hear this? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Link's been updated and no longer says this |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
82. Nope - this quake was stronger than they were designed for |
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Eugene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
8. Japan nuclear plant leaks radioactive water-TEPCO (Reuters) |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. OH MY GOD!!!!!! |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Pop quiz: how many people can a gram of plutonium kill? |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Is the quiz from Ralph Nader or someone who knows something about Plutonium? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. You imply that 1.5 liters of something leaked to the environment is nothing to be concerned about. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. What, somebody dropped a chunk of coal into a 2-liter bottle of Pepsi? |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Lutefisk? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. First, "no release." Then "1.5 liters." Then "350 gallons." Then "ruptured reactor" |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
16. NOW!!!! A MAJOR NEWS STATEMENT!!!!!!! |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
18. Just another of MANY reasons why nuclear power is BAD, BAD, BAD |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. This is rich. |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Someone pinch me. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. So that solar array generates what, 1/100 the output of a single nuclear reactor? |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I guess you didn't read my post. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Do we have decades to build solar infrastructure? |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Funny how you |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. You do realize that solar power produces 0.01% of US energy. |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Maybe you should read what the Department of Energy says. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Good thing we have a few decades to build all this solar infrastructure |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I guess you just don't get it. |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. How would you or anybody else know? Nobody has ever built a 5GW solar facility. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. The "pipe dream" is the scale and readiness |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Oh geeze... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Do you think that engaging in happy-talk is going to get *anything* built? |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. The bubble is going to pop. |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. costs "16 times as much as nuclear" ... Oh really? |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Well, I can explain my numbers easily enough: |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #41 |
89. Reality check |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. "You're all disinformation. You must work for the nuclear industry." |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Yes. |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Well then, I don't mind saying it |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Thank you for offering your opinion. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. The "tough shit" here is that you have only a pathetic life of flaming people on DU and Daily Kos |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. 20 seems generous. |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. You could post a poll and find out. |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Hey, here's a wild idea |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. That has nothing to do with my post...eom |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. At least you recognise... |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. I reckon you reckon so. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. It took you four hours to write that disconnected defense? |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 05:39 AM Response to Reply #53 |
69. Hmmmm, you and what other 19 people? |
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lakeguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
88. make that 21 sets of eyes... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Camp follower |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
87. I do not care about the leak. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
63. Bullshit. Hydroelectric is solar energy stored as potential kinetic energy in water and equals |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
54. Your analogy of PVs being a new industry like the PCs of 30 years ago is a good one |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
64. It takes a few square centimetres of silicon and a few kilios of lead... |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. You go through all that and you don't mention stirling engines? |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
57. The solar exajoules are produced and delivered every day... |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
58. One more thing hydroelectric is a form of solar power and it rivals nuclear |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 07:25 AM Response to Reply #58 |
71. Stop talking bollocks. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Coil, oil and gas are forms of solar power, stored as biomass |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. In order to match that energy ... |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. The point being this: the sun (a nuclear reactor) delivers a massive |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. As I said, you're talking bollocks. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I'm sorry you can't handle that you are wrong in a constructive manner. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. 3%, right and wrong |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. My penis is fairly average to be honest. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
81. Unfortunately there is little room for expansion of hydro generation |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. don't discount wave, tidal, and ocean current power - they are also hydroelectric |
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4bh0r53n (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:30 AM Response to Reply #58 |
91. renewable is not the same as solar |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
43. Fire but no radiation leak. Wait, we meant small radiation leak. 315 gallons. Oops, make that 350 |
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Help me help Earth (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
44. Yet Dick Cheney still wants us to build more. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Dick Cheney? He's pro-petroleum. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. Cheney's tied to Halliburton, a company not adverse to nuclear profits |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. So he's "tied to Halliburton", So what? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I was replying to a post that apparently claimed Cheney was not pro-nuclear but pro-petro |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
56. You are on the losing side of an argument, and it took mother nature... |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. That's odd. The planet *I* live on reminds me every day why we *need* nuclear. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. What I see is a bunch of zealots that misrepresent the facts. |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 07:22 AM Response to Reply #62 |
70. Well look at the screen instead of the mirror! |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 05:07 AM Response to Original message |
68. It's ironic that China right next door releases more radiation every minute |
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Systematic Chaos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #68 |
73. I heard it was one per week. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. My newest copy of Popular Science stated that the rate has risen |
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Systematic Chaos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. I'm - er - speechless.... |
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