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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 02:02 PM
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Report: Cutbacks threaten climate study - AP
Source: Associated Press

Report: Cutbacks threaten climate study

By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, AP Science Writer
2 hours, 24 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The government's climate change research
is threatened by spending cuts that will reduce scientists'
observations from space and on the ground, a study says.

A major problem, the National Research Council said Thursday,
is the program director's lack of authority to organize
spending and research among the 13 different agencies that
study the impacts of climate.

Nonetheless, the report said, the U.S. Climate Change Research
Program has made good progress "in documenting the climate
changes of the past few decades and in unraveling the (human)
influences on the observed climate changes."

In contrast, the report said progress in combining research
results and supporting decision making and risk management
"has been inadequate."

-snip-

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070913/ap_on_sc/climate_research



Source: New York Times

Panel Faults Emphasis of U.S. Climate Program

By ANDREW C. REVKIN
Published: September 14, 2007

A government-wide climate research program started five years
ago by the Bush Administration has clarified some scientific
questions, an independent scientific panel has found. But in its
report released today, the panel said the the program has been
plagued by delays, and that it has not devoted enough money or
effort to studying the effects of climate change, or to
disseminating the findings to those who would be most affected.

The Climate Change Science Program, created in 2002 by
President Bush to improve climate research across 13
government agencies, has also been hampered by priority shifts,
the panel found. Those shifts have led to the grounding of earth-
observing satellites and the dismantling of programs to monitor
environmental conditions on earth, concluded the report,
issued by the National Academies, the nation’s preeminent
scientific advisory group.

In a printed statement, Veerabhadran Ramanathan, the panel’s
chairman, said that the program’s basic scientific efforts have
constituted “an important initiative that has broadened our
knowledge of climate change.”

-snip-

But the report cited more problems than successes in the
government’s research program. Of the $1.7 billion spent by the
program on climate research each year, only about $25 million
to $30 million has gone to studies of how climate change will
affect human affairs, for better or worse, the report said.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/14/science/13cnd-climate.html?ref=science
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 02:27 PM
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1. Over and again, it's urgent for the right-wing to keep the truth of Global Warming from . . ..
reach the public -- especially full strength.

For decades they've been trying to block any involvement by NASA, but NASA struggled on and now and then pushes some info.

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razzleberry Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:25 PM
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2. the US is not the whole world
somebody else do this, for a effin change
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:34 AM
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3. If only the US had the same attitude.
(i.e., "The US is not the whole world")

One big snag with "the rest of the world" doing it is that huge chunks
of the wonderfully enlightened American public have not only zero
non-American-filtered information fed to them but insufficient education
as to what it means if it does manage to get in.

The end result is that your average US citizen continues to reinforce the
party line that the US *IS* the whole world.
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razzleberry Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:28 AM
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5. Americans would appear to me to be the more enlightened
from what I hear.

commoner Ameicans know there is world beyond the US.

from what I read, most non-USAans write
as if the only country in the world is the US
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:19 AM
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4. Others are taking up the slack, I think
I think the problem is that the US has always been so far ahead, with such massive budgets, there hasn't been any point until recently. For instance, in 1999, NASA's Earth Science budget was about $1.4 billion, NOAA's National Environmental Satellite, Data and Information Service budget was over $600m, with another $250m for Oceanic and Atmospheric Research. That's over $2 billion from just those two agencies: Other governments weren't going to spend that amount to just duplicate the work, so it was left up to an America that seemed happy to show off both it's financial clout and big, bulging brains.

And now it's all turned to custard. It'll all get sorted out eventually, but needless to say now is not the time to have a huge chunk of the world's climate science unplugged by a boozed up cowboy. The other major governments are now rummaging down the back of the sofa looking for a few billion in loose change, but even when the teams are pulled together and the facilities built, that won't replace the experience we've lost.
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razzleberry Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:40 AM
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6. 2006 v. 1934, as the hottest year
people argue about a tenth of a degree

nobody else can lift a finger,
or spend a penny

very sad

...................
the oceans are being overfished and stripmined
farmland is being McMansioned



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