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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:56 PM
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Zero-energy home in Cambridge, Mass.
In Cambridge, Massachusetts, the city's first "zero-energy" home has broken fr...ee of the power grid. A team of MIT engineering students are behind the solar-powered house. NECN's Mont Fennel attended the "power up" ceremony.


http://video.aol.com/video-detail/zero-energy-home-in-cambridge-mass/3732660316


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suziedemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 06:50 PM
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1. Thanks!
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freefall Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:41 PM
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2. Yes, thanks. This needs lots of votes so everyone can see the possibilities. n/t
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:42 PM
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3. If you owned a zero energy home...


...full on owned it, and your only expenses were insurance, property taxes, food, and the occasional repair...

what would you do with your life?

Work full time and donate to charity, or work just enough to cover bills, and volunteer for charity?

Or buy a really kick ass baseball card collection? Or go on lots of exotic vacations? Or spend all your time keeping the neighborhood free from "undesireables" and poorly trimmed lawns?

I'm interested to think what a real ownership society might look like.


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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:20 PM
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4. Well, We at one time owned our house outright
But if your significant other becomes chronically ill and you become the caregiver what happens is you keep taking out equity on your home to pay the essentials, heh, so much for the ownership society.
Take it from one that knows.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:36 PM
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6. Very sorry to hear that.

...which is why it would be real nice if people could own their home at a younger age. I mean seriously, is a house and the right to squat on land really worth twenty, thirty years of labor? I think someone's getting the short end of that stick.

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 02:14 AM
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11. There's a lot more to work for besides paying for housing.
Besides just food, insurance, and property taxes. If you were willing to live really frugally, you could probably get away pretty cheap. However, start adding up the costs if, for instance, if you want access to the internet; you want to be able to watch more than network TV; subscribe to magazines or newspapers; add in buying clothes, household items, costs if you want to own a car, etcetera, etcetera. As attractive as a low-cost lifestyle sounds, there are sacrifices that one would have to be willing to make. Housing is a big ticket cost, but not the only ticket.
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:28 PM
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5. What is the payback time.
If the house costs an extra $100K and you would normally pay $2,500 a year in gas/electricity, it would take 40 years to break even.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:37 PM
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7. Yes, but there is also a premium for lower risk...

...lower risk of energy price spikes, which alter that equation,

...and lower risk of default during financial dry spells.

That's got to be worth something. To me, a lot, actually.

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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:11 PM
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9. not to mention you wouldn't come home and find out your house is on fire
from an electrical surge. The transformer near our house has blown out twice this year. Once back in June and then again last month. When it blew last month it was enough of an electrical surge that it melted the wires up to our house which caused them to catch fire. Thankfully my brother was home. He heard a loud boom and went outside. He said there were flames shooting up along the house and he was able to put out the fire before it caught hold. We lost a couple of small appliances (including my computer). On the upside, we now we know why we started having brownouts. And since the wires were replaced I'm now able to brew coffee and cook breakfast at the same time.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 06:11 AM
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14. Whole-house large-capacity lightning-surge arrestors are required in Florida, the thunderstorm state
Communities in Florida may have thunderstorms on one out of three days, so the building codes require that a large surge arrestor be located near the power entrance/circuit breaker box.

They have a large energy capacity (Joules) and are set to a slightly lower voltage than the surge arrestors near your appliances. This is so that the big surge arrestor actuates before the smaller surge arrestors.

They are not commonly used in Ohio.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:49 PM
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8. Asuming you don't have surplus energy to seel back to the grid
and assuming you don't save on gas for your car.

:hi:
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losthills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:32 AM
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10. That's the question that someone always asks
when it comes to solar electric systems, and electric or hybrid cars....

And the answer to the question is that it doesn't matter. The way we are doing things now is going to end. There will be no cost comparison.

It's time to change...
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razzleberry Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 03:50 AM
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12. are you picking up the tab? n/t
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 06:22 AM
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15. I will pass on the designer "accordian style doors"
Just give me a wind up radio, an led lamp and a stack of Edward Abbey books to hole up with and I am happy.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 04:45 AM
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13. Pretty Neat...I saw them building this
I never got to ask them what they were doing I suspected it was something along these lines.
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