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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:20 PM Original message |
As U.S. water worries emerge, all eyes are on the Great Lakes |
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NWHarkness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. "Let them freeze in the dark" |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Also, don't run water-intensive ag operations in semi-arid country, |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. THANK YOU. And if you ARE going to have agriculture in a dry region, |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I hate factory farming in all its varieties. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. or golf courses. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well, I've always pushed water reclaimation R&D |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. IMHO this country (and everybody else in the world) should have as its |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Yep |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. The evaporated moisture has to end up SOMEWHERE. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Very true |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Instead of "reclamation" |
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Arger68 (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. I believe Lake Superior is down about 26" from it's normal |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. And that was a couple of months ago.... |
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Arger68 (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. It's probably come back somewhat in the last month |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. In some respects, I'm more concerned about "Peak Water" than Peak Oil |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. me too |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
16. "Because Phoenix overbuilt, is that the rest of the country's responsibility to fix?" |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Here's the answer: NO! |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Are you really ready for us all to move back? |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. So long as you're willing to be employed rehabbing the infrastructure |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. I worry that you great-lakers don't have as much water as you think. |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Yes, the Lakes are down, especially Superior. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. Who could have imagined that building large cities in the DESERT would create water issues? |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. strangely, the non-desert East seems to be running into water problems before we do. |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Atlanta may be too large for its watershed, and hadn't planned on dry weather. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:24 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Arizona had "rights" to 40% of the Lower Colorado River water & built the Central AZ project |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. In other words, Atlanta made the same mistakes Phoenix did... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Yes, and Yes. Consider that "water rights" are quite different in the West than the East |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. That's a good point. At least the southwest has a sort of legal framework in place. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. We have the "Eastern Rule" Which is upper water users have priority |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. This does not sound like a good thing. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
24. In a word, no. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
32. No Comments on HOW the water will get to the SouthWest... |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
34. Go ahead and build a water pipeline; it will be shot full of holes in no time |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I will help you reload. |
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leftupnorth (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
35. Why can't we run a pipeline to the ocean, |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Actually that sounds more reasonable then diverting the Great Lakes water. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
36. Fuck off! If you want water, live where it rains and snows. If u want |
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