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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 10:45 AM
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'Beer fridges' present a gassy problem
http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn12975-beer-fridges-present-a-gassy-problem.html

Getting rid of vintage “beer fridges” – secondary fridges which many North American and Australian homes boast – could have a significant impact on household greenhouse gas emissions, suggests a new study.

Beer fridges are additional fridges that are generally used to keep beer and other drinks cold on top of a household’s primary fridge for food. One in three Canadian households has a second fridge, many of which are ageing, energy-guzzling models, according to Denise Young, a researcher at the University of Alberta, Canada.

Young suggests that getting rid of older models, in Canada at least, would have an impact on energy usage. Her study analyses industry data and the results of a national survey to look at the environmental effects of having beer fridges in Canada.

"People need to understand the impact of their lifestyles," says Joanna Yarrow, director of Beyond Green, a sustainable development consultancy in the UK. "Clearly the environmental implications of having a frivolous luxury like a beer fridge are not hitting home. This research helps inform people – let's hope it has an effect".

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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 10:47 AM
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1. Fools! The "food" fridge is the frivolous luxury!
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:27 AM
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3. I always found living without a fridge to be easier than having one.
My diet actually improved when I couldn't simply stuff foods and drinks into the fridge that were not particularly healthy for me.

But my wife and kids are never going to buy that argument.

:shrug:
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:09 PM
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5. I hear that humans lived without refrigerators until fairly recently.
It's not something I ever tried. You say you did without one for a while? What was it like?
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:48 PM
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6. When I was growing up our family lived without a fridge for a year.
We also had a vegetarian Thanksgiving once, but that completely freaked out my dad's parents, so we never did it again. My parents are not much concerned about how other people do things, they follow their own path.

When I was single I never had a stable living situation, and even ended up living in my car or on peoples' sofas a few times. Whenever I had a place I could call my own, a room in a house maybe, or a shack in a yard, even if there was a fridge I wouldn't keep anything there. And in some of the places, some not so nice situations, housemates would steal food in the fridge and then shrug it off through intimidation. (Hmmmm, looking back again, my life a single young man sorta sucked...)

Anyways, it doesn't take a refrigerator to eat. You can do almost anything with canned or dry food and fresh fruits and vegetables. The only real trick is judging how hungry you are (or your family is) because if there are any leftovers you'll have to compost them or feed them to the dogs. If you undershoot a bit on your estimates, you simply make up the difference with snacks, preferably something good for you, but in our family the most common make-up food was toasted sourdough bread & butter.

I used to make sourdough bread, and also buttermilk out of the inexpensive dry milk you could get in any bad neighborhood, but my wife doesn't like either of those things.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:49 PM
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7. it was somewhere around '53 or so before they even had electricity where i lived
and ice being several miles away and expensive I'm sure there weren't much refrigerating going on when I was a little kid. If it wasn't for the tit I would have had to drink milnot or pets evaporated milk I'm sure
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 10:49 AM
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2. Thanks for posting - I just sent my tree-hugging-beer-fridge-

owning-energy-conserving spouse a copy of this report.
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:55 AM
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4. My brother keeps his beer fridge inside an old outhouse
That way when any neighbors need a beer they know where it is.

It's also easy to find when they have to pee while lounging around the firepit.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:51 PM
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8. thinking about moving it from the shop to the back room for the beer drinkers here
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