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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:52 PM
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Follow Germany on renewable energy: Clinton
http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUKN1132080820080112

Follow Germany on renewable energy: Clinton

Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:29am GMT

By Jeff Mason

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton wants America to follow Germany's lead -- and her own -- in using environmentally friendly fuel sources and making homes and buildings more energy efficient.

The New York senator and former first lady has made fighting climate change and reducing U.S. dependence on foreign oil a big issue in her campaign for the White House.

Investing in renewable energy technology, such as solar or wind power, is one way to achieve both goals.

"Take Germany," Clinton told supporters near Los Angeles on Friday. "They have put nearly 300,000 people to work in a much smaller economy installing solar panels."

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:00 PM
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1. No Way It's 300,000 People
That would be something like 1% of the working population of Germany.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:05 PM
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4. Perhaps one too many 0's
http://www.cbc.ca/toronto/features/solar/jobs.html
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Many European governments have discovered that not only is solar a viable source of energy, but that the solar industry itself has enormous potential for creating jobs. Solar systems are much more labour intensive than conventional power systems. The huge plants that generate nuclear, coal and oil energy are capital intensive and highly-mechanized. But solar energy requires people... from the manufacturers of the solar products to the electricians, roofers and plumbers who install the solar systems.

In Germany, the solar industry is the fastest growing sector of the Germany economy, with 30,000 people working in solar jobs. Renewable energy has even helped revitalize other industries. Germany's faltering steel plants have been re-energized by the wind-power industry. In the past six years, windmill manufacturers have become the second-biggest users of steel in Germany.

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:10 PM
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7. That's More Reasonable, Thanks nm
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:32 PM
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11. 300,000 is correct - solar (electric and thermal) + wind + biomass jobs
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 06:41 PM by jpak
Germany is the world leader in PV (~1000 MW) per year) and wind (~8000 MW per year) installations as well as manufacturing.

If the US had Germany's renewable energy feed-in tariffs, the US economy would boom...

edit: link

http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=47322
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:05 PM
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14. Thanks jpak n/t
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:01 PM
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2. Glad to hear this. Not just solar panels, but wind turbines, too, which...
...can be seen all over Germany if you ever visit that beautiful country.

I'm happy to hear HRC's becoming more vocal these days about her plans for the country, and for developing alternative energy sources. That field would bring more jobs in the near future, not to mention it's good for the environment, and will promote less dependency on oil.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:01 PM
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3. Now that is talking the issues with substantive ideas and outcomes.
Keep it up Dems!!!
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:05 PM
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5. This is a good idea
It's sad though, the United States used to be a leader. Now, thanks to 30 years of neocons we're happy if our candidates tell us to follow.
Now, if they'd decide we should follow Europe when it comes to healthcare as well.

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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:05 PM
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6. It was the German students who won this years solar decatholon in DC
with a stunning house.
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Fledermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:48 AM
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8. It will be a tremendous economic boost.
if we take all of the money we spend on foreign oil, and invest it here
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cedric Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:11 AM
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9. Energy Efficiency
The first step should be to encourage energy efficiency then look at alternatives.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:45 PM
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10. Absolutely Cedric, conservation can be done right now
However, at the same time, we need to be looking toward the future. We cannot deploy alternatives overnight.

Welcome to DU! :hi:
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:16 AM
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12. Having just returned from Germany
I was amazed at the numbers of wind turbines. I traveled 4 hours from Frankfort and passed many many wind farms. Also it was interesting to see so many solar panels on homes. Even homes that were 400 years old had solar panels. Talk about a contrast.
Germany is by far way ahead of us in conservation.
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Fledermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:32 AM
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13. Yes, I agree.
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 11:32 AM by Fledermaus
I lived in Germany for two years during the early 80’s. Very clean, everything is recycled. I could get beer delivered to my apartment. They would pick up my empties and replace them with fresh beer in bottles.They use the same bottles over and over.

Good cheep public transportation every were.

They pay more for their energy. Builds conservation into their way of life.


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