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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 12:03 PM
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Sufficient certainty
http://www.nature.com/climate/2009/0905/full/climate.2009.42.html
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Nature Reports Climate Change
Published online: 5 May 2009 | doi:10.1038/climate.2009.42

Sufficient certainty

Olive Heffernan

Many argue that emissions targets should be the lynchpin of a global climate deal, but other than the goal of 'avoiding dangerous climate change', there is little agreement on what exactly we should be aiming for. The US delegation offered hope of progress at the first round of UN climate talks in Bonn, Germany, last month, where they committed to 'make up for lost time'. But this was quickly eclipsed by disagreements over how far and fast countries could go in reducing their emissions.

Much of the niggling over numbers can be put down to political wrangling, but there remains the issue of how exactly temperatures will rise with emissions. While the best estimates suggest this is 3 °C for a doubling of atmospheric CO2 concentrations, it could be as high as 6 °C or more (see http://www.nature.com/climate/2009/0905/full/climate.2009.41.html">page 59). This calls into question whether even the most stringent mitigation scenarios being proposed for the upcoming negotiations in Copenhagen truly represent an acceptable attempt to avert the risk of dangerous climate change.

Though the European Union defines warming of more than 2 °C above pre-industrial temperatures as unacceptable, others such as NASA's James Hansen argue this should be 1.5 °C unless we are willing to suffer serious impacts. So should we aim to stabilize atmospheric CO2 concentrations below 450 parts per million, as advised by economist Nicolas Stern in his latest book (see http://www.nature.com/climate/2009/0905/full/climate.2009.34.html">page 62) or at 350 parts per million, as recommended by Hansen?

And how would either translate into near- and long-term emissions targets? Would targets alone even be sufficient? Perhaps not, unless they are set within the context of an overall carbon budget, argue Myles Allen of Oxford University and others in this issue (see http://www.nature.com/climate/2009/0905/full/climate.2009.38.html">page 56). Their latest research suggests that to keep warming below 2 °C, we will need to limit cumulative CO2 emissions to 1 trillion tonnes — twice that emitted since the pre-industrial era — as well as having shorter-term targets that require imminent political action.

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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 12:05 PM
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1. I feel sufficiently certain that they'll continue to argue about it.
And never agree to doing anything.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 04:34 AM
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2. Sad but true ...
... which leads us back to the "OFHWAD" spiral ...
:-(
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