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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:58 PM
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That Didn't Last Long: Germany Pays For Admission to Gen IV Nuclear Program.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 11:16 PM by NNadir
Actually, it is not really possible to make nuclear reactors much safer than Gen III reactors, since Gen III reactors are safer than all the stuff that anti-nukes don't care about, so safe that there are zero anti-nukes who can find someone in this country, or for that matter in France, Belgium or even Germany, or Sweden, or Switzerland who has been killed by one.

No matter. Anti-nukes oppose the world's largest, by far, source of climate change gas free energy (for several decades running now) for the same reason that the Pope opposes priestly marriage: Just because...

The gas executives Gerhard Schroeder and Joschka Fischer engineered - as high level Gazprom/Russian spies in a former German government - the nominal "phase out" of nuclear power on the grounds that you can never have enough gas demand, especially when Russia/Gazprom wants foreign exchange.

It now seems that the phase out is being phased out:

The current federal chancellor Angela Merkel (CDU) has announced the intention to delay the formation of a new government until November 9, the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin wall. Until then, the present government will be still formally in office. Last week was the last cabinet meeting in Berlin (on October 7), but as to my knowledge there were no energy items on the agenda. In fact until a new chancellor (Merkel) is formally elected by the new legislature, the Bundestag, and until she has then nominated new ministers, probably nothing of importance will happen.

Before the elections all three parties that will now form the new government had announced to vote for a life extension of the German nuclear power plants when they came into power. Now, the first discussions among energy politicians in these parties indicate that this might not be the case for all nuclear power plants. The four oldest '69 type BWRs, Brunsbüttel (KKB), Krümmel (KKK), Isar 1 (KKI 1) and Philippsburg 1 (KKP 1), have faced strong criticism. In fact, it may be only the newer reactors, and especially the PWRs, that could benefit from the prolongation. However, the chairmen of the four big utilities are demanding a life time extension for all 17 nuclear power plants. They seem to be prepared to deliver about half of their profits resulting from such a decision to the German government for research into renewables and radioactive waste disposal.


The German anti-coal environmental lobby supports the cause, because in their view nuclear plant life extension would help prevent construction of the 28 new coal fired plants currently being planned by German utilities.


Of course, they haven't had a chance to listen to the drivel of lightweight American bloggers with no science educations on this point.

No matter.


In spite of the government's decision not to build new nuclear power plants in Germany, the current (and probably also future) federal minister for economics, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg (CSU) spent EUR1.3 million on 1 October to join the Generation-4 nuclear reactor research project. He said that by joining the initiative the government would be able to evaluate the safety of nuclear power plants being built in neighbouring countries. German antinuclear associations judged the decision as a sign of the new government's intention to build new nuclear power plants in Germany and strongly criticised the decision.



In case you're wondering who "German anti-nuclear assocations" would be, try spelling them: G-A-Z-P-R-O-M.

http://www.neimagazine.com/story.asp?storyCode=2054362">Nuclear Engineering International.

A more recent, but shorter story was reported by Bloomberg a few days back:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100&sid=aQo1Zj7HlgiY">Germany Favors Nuclear Over Coal.

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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:01 PM
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1. Mark Z. Jacobson Uber Alles!
:evilgrin:
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:05 PM
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2. Ich Denke, das die Deutchen an Mark Z. Jacobsen Völlig wurscht
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 11:13 PM by NNadir
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:15 PM
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5. Ich danke, auch. nt
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:07 PM
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3. We will STILL ctrl-c ctrl-V TO VICTORY!! nt
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:07 PM
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4. Dammit, when you put quantum chemists in charge of countries
they start running things in a very scientific way. Decisions based on facts, instead of emotions.

Damn.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:11 PM
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6. I actually had no idea that Merkel was a trained quantum chemist.
Thanks for pointing it out.

That makes me think better of her.

I know that she was always reluctant about the dumb nuclear phase out, but needed to pay lip service to it because of the coalition with the Gazprom owned SPD in her first government.

Being a scientist, she must have felt like she was in the looney bin when having to listen to anti-nukes. I can can sympathize certainly.

There are many things I don't like about Merkel, but her standing as a scientist gets a bye from me for anything else.
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