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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:57 PM
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Fuel Loading Begins At New Chinese Nuclear Reactor.
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 10:01 PM by NNadir
The initial loading of fuel into the reactor core has begun at unit 1 of the second phase of the Ling Ao nuclear power plant in Guangdong province, China.

The first fuel assembly was loaded into the reactor of the new CPR-1000 unit on 21 April after state approval for the operation to begin, China Guangdong Nuclear Power Company (CGNPC) announced. A total of 157 fuel assemblies will be loaded into the reactor core in an operation expected to take five days to complete. The unit is scheduled to begin commercial operation by the end of 2010.

The main structural work on Phase II of the Ling Ao plant started in December 2005.


http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN-Fuel_loading_starts_at_new_Chinese_reactor-2204104.html">Fuel loading starts at new Chinese reactor

Next year, this reactor, which took 5 years to build, will almost certainly produce more electricity than the entire nation of Denmark can produce in all of it's wind installations, which took three decades to build.

http://www.ens.dk/en-US/Info/FactsAndFigures/Energy_statistics_and_indicators/Annual%20Statistics/Documents/BasicData2008.xls">Danish Energy Agency Figures: 24,940 TJ of wind energy.

If you can do math - which assumes you haven't joined Greenpeace - and figure out how many seconds are in a year, you can calculate that 24,940 TJ of energy is the equivalent of a continuous average power of 790 MW operating for a year. (However wind is not reliable and the wind power comes in bursts, often when the electricity is NOT required by anyone at all.)

The reactors - another is also under construction - are rated at 1080 MWe each. Thus to produce as much energy in one building as all the wind turbines in Denmark can produce in a whole nation strewn with whirling metal that will soon enough be junk, just one of the reactors would need to operate at 100*790/1080 = 73.1% capacity utilization, something it is relatively easy for a nuclear reactor to do. Most reactors around the world operate at close to 90% capacity utilization.

Have a nice evening.
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leeloo Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 10:03 PM
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1. China is moving ahead of us on clean energy,like the French did in the
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 10:05 PM by leeloo
in late 60s and early 70s..France sells excess energy to surrounding countries...
What a success story.

Earlier a article was posted the Danes are going to drill baby drill,i guess that wind thingy is'nt working out..
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 10:25 PM
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2. I hope the thing works better than the fucking tools they sell here.
Disposable after one use (if you're lucky).
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 12:11 AM
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3. Hmmm, NNadir. We might have to pay that argument. LOL nt
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 11:59 AM
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4. I think Chinese keep the good tools they make for themselves.
It's our MBA Wal Mart style marketing geniuses here demanding the cheap tools.

I've always imagined Chinese toolmakers working on the export product lines thinking "Who buys this crap???"
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:01 PM
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5. Exactly. China makes what Walmart, Kmart, Target, Home Depot ask for.
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 02:03 PM by Statistical
They keep asking for lower and lower and lower prices. China gives them what they ask for.

Have you ever seen a foreign product at Walmart or Home Depot get MORE EXPENSIVE over time? This despite rising material costs and rising wages in China.
To compensate they make lower and lower quality products.

But it is cheap right?

I got a set of Craftsman tools from my father. No need to replace them. They are 40+ years old now and still have lifetime warranty. You can buy the same tools (at lower quality) for 1/3rd the price today despite inflation and shrinking natural resources. Of course no cheap tool made today is going to last 40 years or come with lifetime warranty.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:08 PM
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6. That is hilarious
Yes, really, really hilarious. You guys are the same group that was claiming that the example of China dumping the toxic wastes from solar proved how evil solar energy is.

Yet now you are defending their handling of nuclear power.

Could you possibly be any more hypocritical?
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:10 PM
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8. No just pointing out Chinese exports are EXACTLY what people want to buy.
Maybe not every person but certainly enough people.

A set of Craftsmen wrenches with lifetime warranty might be $50. Same set of cheap ass foreign substitutes are $20. The person buying the $20 set knows it is cheap. They likely had something else cheap break on them but they buy them anyways. Chinese are simply supplying what American consumers want. Cheap ass stuff at the lowest price possible. We have become a nation that wants everything right now with no waiting or saving. To accommodate that everything is getting cheaper.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:11 PM
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9. So you are NOT implicitly endorsing the safety of Chinese nuclear reactors?
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:16 PM
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10. China do what is is CHINA best interest.
How does selling piece of shit tool to Amercians consumers hurt China? Hell it helps China because no mater how much we complain about "Chinese shit" the next year we buy even more.

You love to point out how expensive a nuclear reactor is. This is a source of national pride for Chinese and it also represents a massive (especially since China intends to build total of 200 over next 30 years) amount of Chinese treasure.

The idea that they would build it slopily so it breaks in a couple years (instead of providing power for next 60 years) is a joke. It is in their best interest for the reactor to operate for its full 60 years.
They aren't doing it to be green, or because you want them to. They are doing it because China needs a massive (almost mind boggling) amount of power over next couple decades.

Failure for Chinese leadership to supply enough power likely will lead to political instability and possibly another revolution.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:20 PM
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11. Whoa there, champ.
How do you fit your characterizations of solar and they way they handled toxic solar waste products THAT CAN EASILY BE RECYCLED into that?

If they can't deal with SOLAR waste, how in the hell can you sit there and claim that they are going to have a safe nuclear program?
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:26 PM
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12. They CAN recycle the waste, It simply is cheaper to dump it.
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 03:23 PM by Statistical
Will China clean up their act when it comes to solar & nuclear waste? Well that question remains to be seen. Long term obviously there are costs involved with "free dumping".

None of that has anything to do with the quality of their nuclear reactor though.

The again according to you (and your prophet) nuclear is already dead. So what are we discussing this (and new plant at Watts Bar and Vogtle and dozen new reactors in Climate Change bill, and India new reactor, and UK new reactors, and .......)
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