Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

TEPCO: reactor damage includes holes

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Environment/Energy Donate to DU
 
kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:39 AM
Original message
TEPCO: reactor damage includes holes
TEPCO: reactor damage includes holes

The operator of the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant says data analyses suggest damage to its reactors may have caused cracks and openings in the reactor containment vessels equivalent to a 10-centimeter hole.

Reactors 1 through 3 at the plant suffered nuclear fuel meltdowns after the March 11th earthquake and tsunami. This is likely to have created holes and cracks at the bottom of the pressure vessels protecting the reactor cores and damaged the containment vessels.

Massive amounts of highly radioactive water also leaked from the structures.

... The utility said holes and cracks equivalent to 10 centimeters in diameter may have formed in the Number 2 reactor's containment vessel about 21 hours after the quake. It said a similar amount of holes could have been created in the suppression pool chamber by an explosion heard coming from there on March 15th...


http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/25_20.html

This is all inferred from other data, obviously no measurements have been obtained through actual inspection of the reactors.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 12:33 PM
Response to Original message
1. It would be nice if they could more clearly delineate between
RPV and Containment, and reactor 1 or 2. Reactor 2 is the reactor where it has been generally accepted that the suppression pool was damaged by the explosion. (Further bolstered by it's inability to hold pressure, since)

This is the first suggestion I have seen that the suppression pool on reactor 1 is damaged, and I suspect it is a mistake/error in the statement. Reactor 1 has been holding pressure. As has 3.

But reactor 2 is clearly in bad shape.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. deleted duplicate
Edited on Wed May-25-11 12:55 PM by kristopher
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. they've pumped 10K tons of H2O into #1. They do not know where it is going.
Do you?

Obviously you are still intent on defending the indefensible.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. I do not know.
I could speculate all day on ways that do not imply a hole in the suppression pool on reactor 1.

I will wait till they KNOW where the water is going.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. And the same goes for #3. YOU DO NOT KNOW.
This is nothing more than a stupid internet game to you, is it? The human impact is something that you feel not at all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. My emotional assessment of the human impact is not interesting to the question of
whether or not reactors 1 and 3 have damaged suppression pools.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Your dedication to spinning on behalf of a corrupt group of corporations is...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. My emotions are my own business. Not yours.
You are not inside my head, do not pretend you know my motives, and how I feel.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. I 'spin' in favor of hydroelectric as well. The Sendai dam wiped out over 2,000 homes
and an unknown number of humans.

How much of a corrupt shill does that make me? Come on, let's get a running tally going here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. Still looking for a comparable number of posts from you
showing that you care whit 1 about the tens of thousands who died from the earthquake and tsunami.

That is... if you're setting the standard that your "stupid internet games" are the gold standard for human caring.

Is that really what you intend?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. I'm neither defending nor minimizing the effects of the earthquake or the tsunami.
On the other hand, that is ALL you are here for - to defend and minimize the effects of the multiple nuclear power plant meltdowns that have severely and negatively impacted the ability to respond to the victims of the earthquake and tsunami.

I don't expect you to understand the difference, but people with ethics and the ability to experience empathy see it clearly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Of course you are.
At least... you are by the double standard you're trying to use here.

to defend and minimize the effects of the multiple nuclear power plant meltdowns that have severely and negatively impacted the ability to respond to the victims of the earthquake and tsunami.



Oh give us all a break. There's hardly any impact on the ability to respond to the victims of the earthquake and tsunami except in the area right around the reactors.

Japan isn't a 3rd world country. They can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Nor have I "minimized" anything. That's the point you're missing with your replies to the other poster. Correcting your wild OVERestimates of damage is not the same thing as minimizing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Kris is right way more times than you are
In fact I find him to be pretty much right on. I've followed up on a few things hes posted and he always is right on, you on the other hand is nothing but a shill for the nuclear industry. Thats how I see it, thats how I read it.
What you think about them apples mr Baggins :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. Says Madokie?
Edited on Wed May-25-11 04:56 PM by FBaggins
Yeah... I find that real persuasive. :sarcasm:

Forgive me... But anyone who reads that this is going to harm every living cell on the planet and decides "yeah... That makes sense"'is NOT someone I want to find myself agreeing with too often. :)

Sony worry. I'm sure that you make sense on other subjects (as does Kris). Just a great big blind spot.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. A great big blind spot that you have.
Yes I agree with that
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 13th 2024, 05:04 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Environment/Energy Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC