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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:14 AM
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Anybody know more about this? Water Powered Engine
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:25 AM
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1. A suble aroma of bullshit
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 09:11 AM by Dead_Parrot
The H2O 1500 Aquygen™ Gas Generator produces Aquygen™ Gas on demand using only distilled water and standard electric current.

Unless he's packed a large hadron collider into a really small box, the only thing you're going to get out of water is hydrogen and oxygen. There are torches that will electrolyse water to create an oxy-hydrogen flame, but they don't need to invent words to do it...

Edit: It gets better...

"Aquygen™ is made up of oxygen and hydrogen combined in a structure only beginning to be described in scientific literature. We have described it chemically as HHO gas

My God, They've invented steam! Hang on to your hats as we leap forward in time to, err, 1663.

Or they mean pure hydrogen gas and oxygen gas mixed. The prospect on sitting on a tankfull of that in a road accident doesn't bare thinking about. They'd need a sponge, not a body bag.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:35 AM
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2. is this the water-powered engine they had on Mythbusters recently? (n/t)
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:49 AM
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3. For all intents and purposes, I do believe this is hydrogen power
You split the water into oxygen and hydrogen via electrolysis (you can use a battery for this), and then burn the hydrogen. I'd personally love to see it really work - but I find myself compelled to stand in the "wait and see" corner. :)

If you were mechanically inclined, you technically could build one yourself.

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:27 AM
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4. Any chemists read that pdf...
linked to at Klein's site?

It's in what looks like a legitimate publication, but claims that these guys have managed, in their garage, to come up with a new molecular bonding heretofore never seen or done in any lab.

Sounds fishy, like cold fusion redux, but with a college chemistry course 30 years ago I don't know enough to refute it.

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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:32 AM
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5. Hmmm...
My chem's a bit dodgy too, to be honest, although my quantum theory is good enough to say "what utter horseshit". Interestingly, a google on the author of this, err, fascinating work reveals Ruggero Maria Santilli to be the inventor of "Magnegas", which seems to have had the same sorts of claims before vanishing with lots of investors money.

"It's like Whack-A-Mole, they just keep popping up." - from debunkers.org

Oh well. Back to the ethanol. :)
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:40 PM
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6. *SIGH* Same old gas with a new name.
Notice the company webpage is "HYDROGEN Technology Applications". There's no new science or engineering here, just new salesmanship. Or really, recycled salesmanship--this same scheme keeps resurfacing over and over, with only slight variations.

http://hytechapps.com/

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:14 PM
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7. I'll take a "wait and see" on this one
I have seen the article and the video. He claims to have a patented and 'complex' electrolysis process with the Pentagon taking a look at it.
I'm not a physicist or an engineer, so I am going to take a layman's view.

Could it be possible that this fellow has a way to 'crack' the hydrogen and oxygen from water to used as fuel and reformed back into water? And yet make the process efficient enough for wide application.
Yes, I would say it's possible. How possible? That I really don't know.

If this guy is some sort of 'snake-oil' salesman then I believe, in time, he will be exposed. For now I think it may be better to be a little skeptical. I will wait and watch and hope that we hear more on this story be it positive or negative.

As long as I have been at DU, members have posted stories and articles on researchers, engineers, chemists who claim to have developed some process to crack the hydrogen from water using less energy.
What I have seen nearly none of are follow-ups to those articles. It does get a little disillusioning.

I would like to be an optimist, but lets temper optimism with some careful observation as well.
Maybe he has found a way, after all it only a little over a century ago that people said man would never fly.

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