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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:35 PM
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Lots of gun laws have been suggested
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 04:10 PM by RoeBear
... on these pages, this is my opinion of their chances.

Federal registration, it's unlikely to ever happen. Certainly not the type that requires people to report their currently owned guns. Way to much resistance on this.


Ballistic Fingerprinting, could happen but not soon, and only on new sales. And only if the BF is held by the manufacturer. It would be traced like a new gun sale is traced.

National CCW reciprocity, this has a good chance of happening in the not too distant future.

CCW on an airplane, not gonna see this one during our lifetime.

Private sale back ground checks, this one has a chance if they can figure out how to protect peoples privacy. And notice that I say 'private sale' and not 'gunshow loophole' if it's going to be done right as well do it right all at once.

Almost forgot this one:
bullet tax, not going to happen

These are my opinions on their likelyhood and not necessarily my recommendations.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:43 PM
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1. Why don't we do something about bullets?
Every bullet could marked inside the casing. Could at least trace how the bullet go to the criminal.


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Spoonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:48 PM
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2. Cost!
Let’s just make it so expense to shoot, that the common man could not afford to “practice”, thus strengthening the arguments of the hoplophobics.
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 05:07 PM
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3. Wouldn't work.
The shell casing could remain in the gun or in the case of semi-auto's the brass can be collected after the crime. As for bullets themselves, many hand loaders cast their own lead bullets, a simple file would erase any marking on the bullet.
They might try the radio ident tag like walmart is pushing for, but that would apply to new ammo only.
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 05:10 PM
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4. How about this?
Use a firearm to commit a felony, go to jail for life. No possible parole. The active selling of drugs while armed- same thing.
It would be a powerful deterrent to criminal misuse of firearms.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 05:48 PM
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5. Too many people in jail?
On this board, in other forums generally, we get all kinds of threads about how horrible the US is for having so many people in prisons. Not much thought seems to go into why they got there in the first place, just that there are too many of them.

Usually its the same people clamoring for harsher punishment for bad guys with guns.

I'm absolutely in favor of putting people that commit a felony crime with a gun in prison for life, right next to the pedophiles and others with high rates of recidivism.

But then we'll have even more people locked up.

Don P.



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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:27 PM
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6. So?
The solution is poorly worded gun laws? If you bring a gun to a crime scene you have criminal intent of homocide. Homocides will go down with people like that in jail. What good is putting a duck hunter in jail because he didn't comply with some obscure gun law?
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 01:58 AM
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7. I didn't express myself clearly
I'd love to see them locked up and the key thrown away.

My comment was aimed more at the people that want it both ways. Strict gun law enforcement but reduce the people being locked up. You can't have it both ways but some folks think you can.

Don P.
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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 01:09 PM
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9. Release the harmless offenders to clear up some room.
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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 01:07 PM
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8. Private sales is the only one i see that is needed
National CCW would be a good idea but tough to get signed as some states are not willing to let their citizens defend themselves.
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Withergyld Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 03:29 PM
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11. How would you
do it so that it wouldn't be perceived as a "registration" scheme? I see this as the main sticking point to ending private sales. Would it be just like the NICS? Call up and give the information and most of the time get a yes or a no just like with a FFL Dealer? Who would keep the 4473? There quite a few details that would need to be worked out.
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 06:33 PM
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12. I don't know...
...and since it's not something that I would be in favor of I won't make any suggestions as to how to implement it.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 07:23 PM
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13. What other legal products require government approval for a private sale?
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:39 PM
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10. Anyone form the other side of the aisle...
...care to comment?
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 11:20 PM
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14. Gun Law
How about one that makes the individual, in their home, the primary party responsible for their own self-defense? Face it, the police, when they can be trusted, are not able to do everything.
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