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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:26 PM Original message |
How would gun registration help with crime? |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. So the government... The Obama administration is going to come 'get our guns.' |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. No, but it could easily be a future Republican president ... |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. Perhaps from his own web site? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. Your reading glasses must be quite strong. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-05-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
85. Obama wouldn't but you joyously would. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. you must be quite sorrowful the SUV Car bomb in Times Square had a registration trail |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. there is no constitutional right to own a motor vehicle |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. and the constitution prohibits registration of lawfully owned guns... where? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. i didn't say it prohibited it |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. so we're in agreement that registration is o.k. then, yes? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. no, i don't think it's "ok" |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. It's a useless "feel good" law ... |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. so a stolen gun becomes as hard to track as a stolen car? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. If so why is Canada trying to get rid of gun registration? |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Not so much "Canada" as the rightwing Tories... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. The right wing Torries supported by a majoity of gun owners ..... |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Many gun owners do tend to support rightwingers, yes... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. So if only 50% of gun owners in our country registered ... |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 11:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. so you're for the repeal of vehicle registration, yes? |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. How long does a thief need to keep your car before it is his? |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. so you're opposed to the registration of automobiles, too then, yes? |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. You're changing the subject to avoid his point. (nt) |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Interesting how a different Gungeonite has to reply, since no one can directly answer the question |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Which question in particular are you referring to? (nt) |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. The one I posed a couple posts back (nt) |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Again... What question in PARTICULAR are you referring to? |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Auto registration: Are you opposed to it or not? (nt) |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Posts 12, 15 and 54. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Ah -- again with no direct answer. Which I'll take as an answer! |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Ok... |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
72. car registration |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Bra'fukin'vo... |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. How'd that 7-10 year estimate work out for you Petey? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #45 |
54. No, because there has been no history of car confiscation ... |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. How would that reduce crime? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #16 |
47. So, you'll be stepping out to register all your books and papers... |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
64. I don't support registration of firearms for the same reason... |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Federal Law 18 U.S.C. § 921 explicitly prohibits the creation of a firearm registry. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
36. Please try answering the question. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
79. You must love warrantless wiretapping nt |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. good thing nobody's come around to confiscate our registered vehicles |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. See CA's letter sent to owners who complied with the law on registration.. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Oh, the guns in questions were assault weapons. Good, I hope they were all confiscated! |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Do you understand the difference between "assault weapons" and "assault rifles"? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
43. The problem is, the DoJ specifically said the rifles were NOT "assault weapons" |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
65. Yep, because THOSE are the people we need to be afraid of... |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. assault weapons, and not all assault weapons, incidentally. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Me? I was just answering your question.. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. We all know gun owners are enthusiastic shop lifters, all of them. |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. Registration lists were later used as confiscation lists? |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 05:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
35. Yes, by the state of California, as illustrated by the documents in post #7 |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
57. Not really a good example. |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-05-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
82. NFA Registry |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yep...registration won't prevent crime. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
58. It's not about combating 'Crime(TM)' in generic. It's about proliferation. |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
71. How is it a better solution than currently tracing firearms purchasers through... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Because there is no centralized reporting. |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. I do see your point, however I personally disagree. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
9. Criminals can't be locked up for failing to register, either. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. So only honest people would register firearms ... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
13. Registration is a prerequisite for confiscation. Both sides of the RKBA issue know that so why do |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Those who oppose RKBA preach registration ... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
59. I support RKBA, and Registration. |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
26. You've now had 25 replies to this thread and not ONE of them addresses the question you |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Wrong as ever, Phil! |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. How is this ANY better than what we currently have with forward trace??? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
60. I can think of a LOT of things the Canadians can't quite seem to get right. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. First you have to get the gun used in the crime. |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. Telling indeed. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
34. Most firearm crimes are committed by people who would not register firearms. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
74. Guns do not appear out of thin air. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
39. So far, no one has addressed the question. |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. A lot of my liberal friends who I'm certain would favor registration |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
40. I had a fairly lengthy thread on this issue at some point, but it has expired or been deleted someho |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
44. There is no evidence that registration helps with crime |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
48. An essay I wrote a while back... |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 07:51 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. And a good essay it was too. N/T |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 10:07 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Thanks |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Great essay! (n/t) |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
56. Nice! |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #48 |
75. I consider this a false premise. |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-05-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Again... I do see your point, however I would have to disagree. |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-05-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #75 |
84. 4473 database |
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guardian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-05-10 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
80. Answer: it won't |
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RoachJeep (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-05-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. The bullet is what kills a person, not the gun |
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east texas lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-05-10 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
86. It would do little or nothing to curb crime... |
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