US to UN: GET RID OF MACHINE GUNS!

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/8/10/111956.shtml

best fiction writers in the country. first the un is not on us soil. second the un has dip.immunity. who knows what kind of fire power is in alot of other nation`s transportation . newsmax..what a rag.....

It says "MP-5 sub-machine guns, para-military assault rifles" and "high powered weapons" and "can only be purchased by law enforcement bodies" and "easily be modified from a sub-machine to a full machine gun".

Although it is available in other calibers, they are almost certainly a 9mm weapon and clearly not high powered. They are probably selective fire and can be obtained by any qualified citizen under the NFA, if not prohibited by state laws. See H&K MP-5

My assessment of the article :puke:

The UN guards are under the same laws off the UN compound as any other citizen of NY State. Plus I think the UN guys carry Glocks and those are powerful enough.

the MP-5 could only be purchased by law enforcement. That is not true because many states do permit citizens to possess automatic arms licensed under the NFA.

I found the following statement re NY law on NFA guns.

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It is a felony for any person to manufacture, transport, or dispose of a machine gun. It is a felony to buy, receive, dispose or conceal a machine gun which has been defaced for the purpose of concealment.

The presence in any room, dwelling, structure or vehicle of any machine gun is presumptive evidence of unlawful possession by all persons occupying the place where the machine gun is found.

A machine gun is defined as any weapon from which a number of shots or bullets may be rapidly or automatically discharged from a magazine with one continuous pull of the trigger and includes a submachine gun.
UNQUOTE

I'll find a better cite and post later.

ON EDIT ADD
The NY laws at this link state that it is illegal for citizens to own machine guns in the state of NY. NY Laws

but "number of shots" is not very clear.

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How can you convert a submachinegun to a full machinegun?

US law prohibits possession of post-86 MGs unless the person is an employee of a governmental agency...Isn't the UN a governmental agency? Also, HKs are sold world-wide, not just to americans, regardless of what the pencil-dicks in Chantilly say.

"Isn't the UN a governmental agency?"

I suspect that the US law you refer to would define "governmental agency" for the purpose of the law as meaning "agency of the United States government" (and further define "agency" of course).

The UN is properly called an inter-governmental organization. As are others such as the ILO, WHO, WTO, World Bank, etc.

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The US's concern about others bringing weapons it doesn't like into its territory would be funny if it weren't so patently double-standard based and so viciously offensive.

Law that prohibits the carrying of certain arms by anyone not working for a "governmental agency" ... hmm, that might be what ya'd call the carrying of those arms by non-state actors ...

http://www.fpif.org/commentary/0108arms_body.html

At the UN conference, the United States opposed any language in the program of action that prevented the sale of arms to non-state actors. John R. Bolton, U.S. undersecretary of state for arms control and international security affairs, flatly said that the United States could not be part of an agreement that "would preclude assistance to an oppressed non-state group defending itself from a genocidal government." While the United States wants to keep the option open to aid insurgents battling oppressive regimes around the world, this policy can adversely affect legitimate governments battling insurgencies.

The United States must also acknowledge its role in global arms trafficking. The United States is the largest producer of small arms in the world, with more than half of the world's producers based in the United States. Many arms traffickers buy relatively inexpensive firearms in the United States and resell them on the black market abroad because the penalties are relatively light compared with the penalties for smuggling drugs--and the profit margin is high. Arms brokers bypass regulatory norms and facilitate weapons transfers from states to non-state actors and buyers who could not otherwise obtain them.

The United States chooses to ignore the extent of this dynamic and sees any effort to address the matter as potential infringement on the rights of U.S. citizens to own firearms. At the UN conference, Bolton assured that "the United States will not join consensus on a final document that contains measures contrary to our constitutional right to keep and bear arms."

In the Americas, the consequences of ambivalence could be substantial. When peace comes to Colombia, thousands if not millions of small arms and light weapons--many of U.S. origin--will need to be decommissioned before they filter throughout the region and overseas.

In pandering to the gun lobby, the Bush administration showed what little regard it has for strengthening international efforts to deal with trafficking in small arms. President Bush promised to elevate the status of the Americas in his foreign policy. If he intends to follow through on this promise, his administration must realize that the problem of illicit trafficking in small arms is more complex and serious than the attention it gave to it at the UN conference, and acknowledge the implications for the Americas.

Hell -- the RKBA crowd and its puppets (who are speaking on behalf of the United States on the world stage) -- "acknowledge the implications" of anything for anyone but themselves?

It is to laugh. Well, it would be ... if their vicious self-centredness, and resolute pursuit of their own self-interest regardless of whose expense it is at, didn't have such sad consequences for others.

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(typo fixed)

It puts them in the same category as the NY Post, the Washington Times, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Wayne LaPierre, Ted Nugent, and John "Cook the Books" Lott.

Pure and simple.

It's a known fact there is/was tension between the US and the UN over these machine guns.

that NewsMax.com is written by and for assholes.

Supposing the article is truthful (you are right about Ruddy and his henchmen)

I will just say handguns are enough for protection.

Unless it's posted on a more reputable site, I refuse to click onto newsmax.com.

Didn't really pay attention to who posted it. Lest you think I surf Newsmax.

BUt many of us DUers refuse to go to sites such as NewsMax and The Washington Times. I'd sooner read the Limbaugh Letter, and I'd gouge my eyes out before I did that......

Ann Coulter's views...

:-)

You wonder why some of these bozos don't just join the GOP. Then they could spout all the mindless racist rubbish they pleased.