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TPaine7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:04 AM
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Liberal Representative in Safe District Co-sponsoring National Right to Carry Reciprocity Bill
Friday, May 6, 2011
Don't Always Judge A Book By Its Cover

Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN-9) represents the Memphis area in Congress. His Congressional district is majority African-American and is considered one of the safest Democratic seats in the country. A win in the Democratic primary is tantamount to winning the election.

Cohen is also extremely liberal. According to the website, ProgressivePunch.org, his lifetime score is 95.84% which puts him ahead of such liberal icons as Nancy Pelosi and the Queen Bee of Gun Control, Carolyn McCarthy. It is hard to find anyone more liberal than Cohen and he tends to wear his politics on his sleeve. Indeed, Cohen caused a stir back in January when he said "Republicans are like Nazis" when discussing healthcare.

Unsurprisingly, Cohen is listed as one of the co-sponsors for Rep. Carolyn McCarthy's HR 308 which seeks to ban standard capacity magazines and eliminates the grandfathering that the Clinton-era AWB had.

So you can imagine my surprise when I was checking the co-sponsors of HR 822 - the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Bill - and saw his name listed as becoming a co-sponsor this week...


Source: http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2011/05/dont-always-judge-book-by-its-cover.html

Yes, this blogger sounds conservative. But you can see that Steve Cohen is actually a co-sponsor here: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h822/show . (As a matter of fact, that's where I followed a link to get to the quote.)

If a liberal with such impeccable bona fides is on board, reciprocity has a high likelihood of passing. That's great news for Americans who carry and who want to travel throughout their country, and it would be great to see Congress exercising its legitimate power under the "full faith and credit" clause.

It would also put New York, New Jersey, California and some other states in an interesting position. They would either have to treat their "ordinary" law-abiding citizens with decency and respect or face their wrath at the polls when they realized that visitors had the same rights as the rich, famous and politically connected, while they were relegated to second class status in their own home states.
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 06:18 AM
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1. This is an attempt to sneak in federal control of CHL so some anti gun jackass can try and set the
Conditions for getting a CHL later. Keep it at the state level
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 06:35 AM
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2. Not necessarily
DL reciprocity doesn't govern DL issuance guidelines, it simply makes all DLs cross state lines. I do agree that someone might try, but given the strength of CCW legislation at the state level, the already cooperating states, and the prevalence and growing movement toward 'Constitutional Carry', I don't think it is likely to pass if too restrictive. That said, I don't really think we need national reciprocity yet..I would prefer to wait and see how the states do on their own.
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DWC Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:21 AM
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3. Rep. Cohen has it right
The right to self defense - anywhere is not now; never has been; and never shall be a legitimate political issue. It is simply common sense.

Semper Fi,
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:41 AM
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4. Looks to be headed that way
Right to carry history shows how it has gained.


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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:00 AM
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5. Doesn't any RTC law require one to have a license and therefore
be registered with the government entity?
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 06:28 PM
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16. Alaska, Arizona, Vermont and Wyoming
All allow RTC sans permit. If you can legally own a gun you can legally carry it at your discretion
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:09 AM
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6. Will it get enough votes to survive a filibuster in the Senate?
That was the fate of the Thune Amendment. It was one vote shot of the 60 needed to stop a filibuster.

It is stunning to see Cohen as a co-sponsor.

I do believe a bill like this is badly needed. Residents of CA & NY & HI would then be able to get out-of-state UT permits and then carry in their own states.
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TPaine7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 06:01 PM
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7. It only missed by two votes in 2009. It should pass this time, IMO.
Edited on Sun May-08-11 06:02 PM by TPaine7
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s845/show
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 06:33 PM
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8. LOL...yes, it should pass this time..
Edited on Sun May-08-11 06:34 PM by virginia mountainman
May even have a couple of votes to spare...

On a closely related note:

McCarthy and her "ilk" should feel which way the political breeze is blowing before they pee in it... But hey, she may enjoy getting her "pet" legislation utterly destroyed, and tossed out like a kid's half eaten happy meal at McDonalds..

What ever floats there boat..
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 06:44 PM
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9. While I believe Concealed carry should be a state issue
I do like the idea of national reciprocity.

Let's go for it.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 06:51 PM
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10. unreccing - everyone who carries should get a permit in each state
yup
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 07:01 PM
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12.  My Texas CHL is accepted in 32 states. States Rights to accept or reject
another states CHL.
So you are against the States deciding on whose permit to accept.

Typical.

YUP

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 10:51 AM
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14. Nope! n-t
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 06:58 PM
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11. This is great but the issue is still so many different laws between states. Bars, etc. I wish...
we had a national CCW law.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 08:10 AM
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13. I would like that.
I would like for the requirements to be somewhat stricter than most state CCWs and have the ability to carry EVERYWHERE with very few exceptions.
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 05:23 PM
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15. The bigger problem is how self-defense is defined in a state.
In some jurisdictions you cannot use force to defend yourself if you have a way to escape.

Some states let you use deadly force at night in situations you could not during the day.

My state allows the use of deadly force to prevent the arson of a barn.

Remember, the cops, prosecutors, judges, and juries will have an unlimited amount of time to second guess your split-second decision. You need to know the law that applies where you are.
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 06:33 PM
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17. We have a national CCW law I will cite it for you
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

There you have it
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