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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 10:14 AM
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Woman shoots and kills knife-wielding intruder
http://www.ajc.com/news/gwinnett/woman-shoots-knife-wielding-942224.html

"Gwinnett police Cpl. Edwin Ritter told the AJC that the woman, who is in her late 40s or early 50s, was getting out of the shower when the intruder, who she did not know, turned out the lights and attacked her.

She fell back into the shower, injuring her back, and attempted to fight the man off with the shower rod, Ritter said.

"He forced her into her bedroom," Ritter said. "Once inside the bedroom, she retrieved a .22-caliber pistol and shot him several times."


Anyone who advocates the elimination of firearms for self-defense is basically condemning people like this victim to resorting to a physical contest of strength with their attacker if they choose to try and resist. The removal of firearms from society would mean that every victim of violent assault has three choices - flee if you are fast enough, submit if you can survive submission, or engage in a physical contest of strength against your attacker if you are strong enough.

The weak would be at the mercy of the strong.

This particular anecdote also disproves the oft-quoted myth that you can't successfully use a firearm against someone who has the advantage of advanced preparation and surprise.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 10:17 AM
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1. how unfair, bringing a gun to a knife attack, time to ban guns criminals are getting hurt.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 10:17 AM
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2. Sounds terrifying. I hope the woman is OK. nt
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 10:23 AM
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3. It does, it sounds absolutely terrifying.
I am glad she is alive and I hope she gets counseling to deal with the post-traumatic stress such a horrible event must cause.

PB
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:54 AM
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12. +1
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 10:24 AM
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4. A .22. Interesting.
Better than the curtain rod for sure.

The report says he collapsed outside the house. I wonder how many rounds were used and how long it took before he was incapacitated. Good thing that this particular bad guy did not have a firearm or he might have returned fire before collapsing.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 03:06 PM
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17. If the woman in question is petite, it might be a good choice for her.
A hit with a .22 is better than a miss with a .45.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 10:26 AM
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5. Yep that anecdotal evidence proves it for sure!
LOL
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 10:36 AM
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6. Anecdotes are not indicative of a trend.
Anecdotes cannot be used to indicate trends, but they can, as this one does, disprove incorrect assertions.

This anecdote also gives keen insight into what kind of world we would have in a world without firearms. The weak would always be at the mercy of the strong.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 10:41 AM
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7. No one said it did. Could you BE any more disingenuous?
Edited on Wed May-11-11 10:41 AM by cleanhippie
If you do not even want to have a rational conversation about the topic, why are you even here?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 10:58 AM
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 02:03 PM
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14. Which myth?
"You won't be able to protect yourself effectively with a gun because the criminal already has the drop on you"?

"The Police are there to protect you and dialing 911 is the best defense"?

"You will have the gun taken away and used against you"?

"Shooting paper targets doesn't do anything to prepare you for a real self defense shooting"?

For now we'll ignore the "Police won't know who the criminal is will shoot you" and a few others not relevant to this particular case.

But please, let us know which myth this disproves.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 02:23 PM
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16. What oft-quoted myth is that? Thats the second time you hint at it, but don't seem to just
Edited on Wed May-11-11 02:28 PM by cleanhippie
come out and say what it is. The myth that the OP speaks of DOES get disproved by this single example.

So what myth are YOU talking about?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:28 AM
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10. Actually one anecdote *is* sufficient to disprove a categorical statement
Logic classes are fun
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TPaine7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:30 AM
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11. You're right...
This particular anecdote also disproves the oft-quoted myth that you can't successfully use a firearm against someone who has the advantage of advanced preparation and surprise.

You're exactly right. It disproves the claim of impossibility, just as ANY SINGLE CONTRARY ANECDOTE WOULD.

But I'm curious, what's funny about that? I have a pretty good sense of humor, but straightforward factual observations don't usually tickle my funny bone.

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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 10:49 AM
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8. Oh boy! A DU gun fight!
:popcorn:
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DWC Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 01:55 PM
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13. In the real world
If you find yourself under violent attack, you are the "first responder". I am sincerely happy that this lady was prepared and able to stop the attack.

Had she not had immediate access to a gun I honestly believe this violent attack would have ended very differently.

This and similar real world scenarios is specifically why I developed The Pistol Pad.

Semper Fi,
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 02:22 PM
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15. what is
The Pistol Pad?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 03:10 PM
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18. Looking at his website...
It's an electronic lockbox for a handgun which connects to a home alarm system. Opening it up without first disabling the box with the proper key sets off the alarm.
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YllwFvr Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 03:16 PM
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19. thats a great idea
now i need an alarm
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 03:21 PM
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20. thanks -
:blush:

I didn't see the little link in his sigline. sheesh.

good idea :)
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 04:44 PM
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21. She was only attacked with a knife, it's not fair that she
fought back with a gun.
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 05:30 PM
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22. where are the usual anti suspects?
iverglas? I think japk is still smarting.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 06:21 PM
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23. Good for her and glad she was able to get to her gun
Frightening story.
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