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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:21 AM Original message |
FBI reports 5.5% decline in violent crime in 2010!!!!! With RECORD gun sales...... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. The National Academy of Sciences begs to differ |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Please list your source. If you have one! :-) |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Here ya go |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Way to misrepresent the study's findings! |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Hit and run posting. Common here. n-t |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. You are citing one of your threads as a source? |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
63. So then you admit all your threads about guns making things worth have no rational basis? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. How difficult is it for you to provide a link ... |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. You Fall Upon The Double Edged Sword |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. Um, this trend has been ongoing for decades |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. But YOU know that, yet continue to make drive-by posts that claim otherwise. |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. BUT more guns DOES NOT equal more violent crime. And many here act like it does!!! n-t |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. ummm |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Not even close. Nice try. n-t |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Peer reviewed academic studies - on target |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Peer reviewed academic studies... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Nope - post after post have proclaimed that more guns = less crime |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Maybe in fantasy land... |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. More like bullshit.... |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. ummmmmm |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. While it is impossible to prove, CCW may have caused a drop in the violent crime rate ... |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
3. Gas prices also went up. More guns equals higher gas prices! |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
4. When we see local gun shot deaths rising weekly and more |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. So you think the FBI us wrong because you here about shootings? n-t |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. You hear it from the corporate media. You know, it bleeds it leads; |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. "Summer of the Shark", anyone? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. Maybe you live in a shitty area |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
9. seems does`t mean factual |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
10. Why would you want more people walking around with guns? Seems like a strange thing to want. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Given a choice, I would rather see more honest people with carry licenses ,,, |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. You can't have that, because access by the publc to guns and ammo makes them available to anyone. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Tell that to the state of Florida or to the Supreme Court. (n/t) |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
46. That is correct. Firearms are available to anyone. |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. No, what you do is squeeze off access to the society as a whole. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Why would you care? |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Deadly force at the command of a trigger finger, that's why. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. Being afraid of people all the time must be a terrible burden on you |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #44 |
61. Afraid is as afraid does, gun man. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. What exactly do you mean by "gun man?" |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. You refuse to explain your "gun man" remark, so I am done reading your crap |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. Wow, you do realize that criminals have guns? Please explain why you.... |
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fredamae (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
14. Has the definition of "violent crime" changed? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Nope, it hasn't. |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
23. Looks like the north isn't catching on....they need to loosen their laws also. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
24. Criminologist attributes this to good law enforcement/crime prevention - not more guns |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yes and teachers will claim it's education and doctors claim it's less lead poisoning |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Nice try Jpak, that is like saying "Economists say trickle down economics works" Or that.... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. There is nothing in the original post that says anything about more guns causing less crime |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. And you have no proof that more guns cause more crimes. And if you don't then I assume.... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. More guns = more gun murders - those are the facts |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Great, prove it. Especially since there are more guns now than ever.... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. These are the facts - yup |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Where's Mexico no that list? Iraq? Sudan? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Try looking at a map |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Record high gun sales yet continuing drop in all violent crime - THOSE are the facts. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Gun ownership is declining - gun hoarders do not influence the crime rate |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. So why do you hate gun hoarders so much? n-t |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. They are hoarding because Obama is our president - the GOP/NRA Apocalypse |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. No, some people just collect guns like others collect stamps. n-t |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. Then why the big push for gun control? |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. Sorry, but that's a useless stat to begin with. |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
55. Not according the the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports.... |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. I jsut read over at LBN it's thanks to abortion. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
51. Meanwhile, law enforcement gun death rates continue to climb. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Wrong.. again.. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. I addressed this in the other thread. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. And you were soundly rebuked in another thread. |
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DanTex (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
67. Are you really claiming a causal relationship between higher gun sales and reduced crime? |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Actually, I think he's criticizing the common "more lawful gun sales = more crime" hypothesis. |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. No, but there is NO PROOF more guns = more crime! :-) |
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