GUNS IN THE NEWS--May 19, 2004

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McALESTER, Okla. - Former neighbors of a gun collector say they doubt the man's truthfulness about a robbery that prosecutors maintain helped finance the Oklahoma City bombing.
The neighbors testified Tuesday at the state murder trial of bombing conspirator Terry Nichols, accused by the government of stealing an estimated $63,000 in weapons and other items from the Arkansas home of Roger Moore.
His neighbor, Verda Mae Powell, said Moore appeared out of breath and nervous when he came to her door after the robbery. She said he made two or three telephone calls from her house.
"He said something to the effect: 'They've got it. They've robbed me,'" she told jurors. "It just appeared almost that he was play-acting."
Her husband, Walt Powell, said Moore led him to where his phone line had been cut behind his house. "If he was all bound up... how would he know where his phone wire had been cut?" "

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040519/ap_on_re_us/nichols_trial_7

a guy spends $63,000 on guns... and then gets robbed... and then not only that they tie him up and take his guns!

Bwhahahaha...

That is if he was even robbed at all... such a law-abiding gun owner would never try to commit insurance fraud, would they now?

"such a law-abiding gun owner would never try to commit insurance fraud, would they now?"
I'm sure he's a stand-up guy...just ask his pals Terry and Tim...(Don't be surprised when Tim doesn't answer)...

"A Philadelphia gun turn-in program is exceeding the expectations of its organizers.
So many gift certificates have been given away to those turning in their guns, that the group running the program is happy to announce that they've run out of money.
Ray Jones, co-founder of "Men for A Better Philadelphia" says in the last two weeks, his group of graduate students has collected more than 800 guns from people of all different backgrounds and ages:
But, Jones says, more sponsors are expected to join the program by next week. "

http://www.kyw1060.com/news_story_detail.cfm?newsitemid=37710

You might recall a schoolboy was killed in a shootout between two gunowners a few weeks ago, horrifying the city and the nation.

Sure helped reduce crime in Chicago. Oh wait.

Holy crap, how racist can you get?

"when did we become a nation of 'n****rs'?, or is everybody just fucked in the head?
1... every store/resturant you go into is playing 'ogga booga iggabigga i's a muddafugging niga ' type music at disgustingly loud volume...
2... the words on store names and 'advertizin' are gwine done be spelled n****r style , ie: dawgz , ho'z , yowza mofo, etc...
3... the n****s is gwine done beze in de adz fa outta dere numbaz in relation to the population as a whole ...WTF???!!!
4... people just act and carry on like gutterfilth, every other word is 'muthafucca' or beyatch , or (fill in the blank)...
5... all the clothes in the stores look like they belong on bubbles, or Mr chuckles , or clyde ...
6... give me your own examples... "

schumacker Posted: May 16 2004, 04:25 AM
N****r shoes really piss me off!
The last time I needed a new pair of tennis shoes I tried going to the mall. BIG MISTAKE. All I saw was racks and racks of fucking clown shoes!

Virtual Posted: May 16 2004, 06:24 AM
We should do one of those demonstrations along the line of the "affirmitive action bake sale."
Lets see... find a coupla white guys and have them play the bongo drum while wearing only a straw "skirt." I'm sure that'll get the ACLU on your ass quick enough. What? We're not sensitive to their culture?

BigC Posted: May 16 2004, 10:29 AM
I only shop in White stores. Sheplers,Kroger,Whataburger, Sears. I don't care how the Coons dress, But if I see one more 350 pound 5 foot tall Black female ape in a neon green spandex tube dress I'll puke. "

http://www.glocksunlocked.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8977

And there'd be not a peep of protest from the millions of "pro-gun democrats" you claim are out there...or from any of our so called liberal "enthusiasts" here. Wonder why? Neither do I.

Some people just don't merit a response.

If only our "pro-gun democrats" spent as much time being Democrats as they do thinking up excuses why they dare not.

One day during that trip to Chicago in the mid-80s, I went shopping. I needed something that could pass for a Hallowe'en costume, for a party I hadn't known I'd be going to. Found a bright orange bat-wing shirt -- bat wings (sleeves waist-deep at the armhole, narrow at the wrist) were then the style, and they suited me and I miss them; got a gorgeous green silk one in Portland, Maine, once, too. Nonetheless, me in a bright orange bat-wing shirt was an excellent imitation of a pumpkin. I wonder whether the neon green spandex tube dress puker would have been offended ...

Anyhow, I wandered from department store to department store downtown, in a generally oblivious shopping haze, until I happened to look around me in one of them, and noticed that I was the only person of pale colour on the floor. It was then that it occurred to me that there were indeed "white stores" and "black stores" where I was. And that was pretty weird. And organizing one's own life around such things is even weirder.

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It's appalling to think there are still people who think like that...much less that there would be a place anywhere that goes out of their way to make such folks feel at home.

That thread shows quite clearly what's really lurking under that "gun rights" sheet...and the tomb-like silence by our "pro-gun democrats" is pretty deafening, isn't it?

Especially considering how many of our "enthusiasts" have been trying desperately to pretend this or that aspect of gun control is in some way racist...and posturing about how anti-racist they were in those cases with strident tones.

:eyes:

that "gun rights" sheet.

"A 57-year-old Salt Lake man was charged Tuesday in 3rd District Court with reckless endangerment, a class A misdemeanor, after a gun accidentally went off and a bullet
The boy's father heard a loud "boom" on July 29, 2003, and the boy started crying and complaining of pain. The father then noticed a hole in his son's diaper. Doctors later removed a bullet from the boy's buttocks, according to charging documents.
A man in the apartment below them had been preparing his lever-action rifle for hunting season in October and placed four or five rounds in the magazine. He "pushed down" on the bullets and closed the bolt, so as not to chamber a round, then pulled the trigger on what he thought was an empty chamber. But the gun went off, the charges state."

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595064261,00.html

"A San Francisco man was killed Tuesday in a midday shooting in a Western Addition parking lot while his cousin -- another victim of gun violence -- was being mourned in a nearby church.
Chris Johnson, 26, was shot to death at 12:48 p.m. as he sat in a Ford Contour parked in front of an athletic-shoe store in a mall off Fillmore Street near Eddy Street. Witnesses said he had just bought a pair of shoes when two men walked up to the car and opened fire. Police are not sure whether Johnson was alone.
Johnson was shot just a few blocks from the First Friendship Baptist Church, where hundreds of people gathered for the funeral of Raymon "Ray Ray" Bass, a 17-year-old football star and honor roll student at Mission High School.
Bass, who was shot to death May 7 on a Western Addition street, and Johnson were distant cousins. Investigators have said the person who shot Bass may have mistaken him for someone else. They declined to speculate about whether his killing and the shooting of Johnson, a Hunters Point resident, were related."

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/05/19/BAGUO6O01K1.DTL

Gun dealer AND stick-up artist...it's the RKBA's renaissance man...

"WOODBRIDGE (AP) - Police removed hundreds of guns, military munitions and other devices from a Woodbridge residence Tuesday.
Police found the weapons while executing a search warrant at the Dylan Road home of Phillip Rockland, Woodbridge Police Chief Dennis Phipps said.
Rockland, 54, was arrested by New Haven police Tuesday afternoon and charged with robbery with a handgun and larceny, Phipps said.
When police searched his home they found a stockpile weapons, including assault rifles, he said.
Rockland had a federal license to possess and sell firearms, but Phipps said it is unclear if that license is still valid."

http://www.wfsb.com/Global/story.asp?S=1878477

"A Redding man facing four life terms for a crime spree marked by the shooting of a Felton park ranger and the carjacking of a Santa Cruz mother and daughter, surprised the court with a guilty plea Tuesday, the day before his trial was to begin.
David Paul Melberg, 40, pleaded guilty to more than a dozen charges stemming from his run from law enforcement in Santa Cruz County on Dec. 10, 2002. Those crimes came at the end of a several-week rampage of robberies, carjackings and other felonies in Shasta and Sacramento counties. He has charges pending in those jurisdictions.
"I’m stunned," prosecutor Ariadne Symons said Tuesday, adding that Judge Michael Barton asked Melberg if he was sure of his decision, noting that he had nothing to lose by going to trial. Melberg replied he was sure."

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2004/May/19/local/stories/04local.htm

"The 15-year-old Prairieville teen charged in the shooting of a Jazz Festival patron will face criminal charges as an adult, said a spokesperson for the New Orleans District Attorney's Office.
Melanie Roussell, public information officer with the New Orleans District Attorney's Office, said Kelvin Atkins, 15, of Prairieville faces one count of first-degree murder in connection with the May 1 shooting death of Daniel Breaux of Houma.
Three other teens, all from New Orleans, are also charged in the case.
Atkins was picked up just minutes after New Orleans police officers heard the single gunshot and found the victim lying on the sidewalk. The three other teens were arrested a few days later."

http://www.ascensioncitizen.com/articles/2004/05/19/news/news2.txt

Wonder if the NRA warned the readers of its gun magazine for kids that such a thing could happen?

"A 22-year-old woman was found shot to death in a Newport News home Wednesday morning.
It happened in the 14000 block of Warwick Blvd. around 12:30 a.m.
Police say there were five other people in the home at the time that Marisha Sherell Myers was killed.
After talking with several other people who were in the home at the time, police want to find Brock Armond Carter, 21, of Newport News. Police say he's been staying at several different places. He's wanted for murder and a firearms charge."

http://www.wvec.com/news/topstories/stories/wvec_local_051904_nn_shooting.1d8a2eb5f.html

Wonder if he brags to strangers about his gun online too?

"A McKeesport man was gunned down Tuesday night in Pittsburgh's Hazelwood section.
The unidentified 19-year-old was found shot to death outside a Dairy Mart convenience store on Second Avenue. "

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/wesh/20040519/lo_wtae/2212333

...At 93 years, 5 months, 8 days, Jim Snow had hit 100 trap targets in a row and made history. He is the oldest to hit 100 straight targets for the first time in his shooting career in an Amateur Trapshooting Association registered shoot. And he's the oldest person to break 100 straight targets in registered competition, both facts courtesy of Trap & Field, the sport's official magazine and record keeper.

It was a magical moment for those present at the San Diego Shotgun Sports Association (SDSSA) at Miramar earlier this month, but for Snow, fate had brought him to nearly the same spot where he experienced the worst moment of his life. It was nearly 60 years ago that he lost three fingers and most of the little finger on his right hand in an accident while in the Navy.

Just as people rushed to his aid that terrible day so long ago, they ran toward him on this day, too. But this time it was to congratulate him for doing something no one had done at his age.

"At his age, and with his disability, it's like me or you pitching a shutout or no-hitter in a World Series game," said range manager Layne Kuhlman. "Most of us can't fathom how he does what he does."...

For full copyrighted article please see http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040519/news_1s19shooter.html

"Police are still searching for several suspects in a string of area robberies that they now believe are related.
The latest robbery occurred Monday at a Florida Telco Credit Union in Baymeadows, when three masked gunmen terrorized customers and employees, demanding they drop to the floor. One man pointed an assault rifle at a woman.
Reports also indicated a fourth man was waiting outside the bank while the robbery took place. The suspects then fled in a stolen van, which was later found abandoned. "

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040519/lo_wjxt/2211270

CARIBOU - A Masardis man who allegedly beat, stabbed and shot his father to death was indicted on Friday by an Aroostook County grand jury on charges of intentional or knowing murder and possession of a firearm by a prohibited person.The indictment of Michael D. MacDonald, 25, stems from the April 21 slaying of 57-year-old Michael W. MacDonald of Masardis. Police found the elder MacDonald facedown on the linoleum floor of his kitchen after answering a call to check on the man's well-being. The younger MacDonald turned himself in at the Aroostook County Jail in Houlton the next day, saying police wanted him for questioning in his father's death.
The state Medical Examiner's Office has determined the cause of MacDonald's death was a shotgun wound and blunt trauma to the head, combined with multiple stab wounds.
The younger MacDonald is being held without bail at the Houlton jail. In late April, Judge Bernard O'Mara continued the man's bail hearing to a later date to give his court-appointed attorneys time to obtain mental health and psychiatric records as well as police reports."

http://www.bangornews.com/editorialnews/article.cfm?ID=422846

"A Nashville church that's fighting to keep from registering its daily child ''camp'' as a state-licensed day-care center posts armed guards on the church grounds, which is raising alarms for state human services officials.
Bennett said rules and laws that govern weapons at a child-care facility do not apply because the church is not licensed as such.
Every day and night, at least a handful of guards in orange shirts patrol in golf carts on the church grounds, Bennett said. They frequently stop, question and escort guests who come to the church property. The guards' weapons have not been visible; their orange shirts are pulled over their belt lines. The church also has an extensive surveillance system, he said.
Bennett said the armed guards have had extensive training through a gun-training course. The church guards receive monthly updates on their training and they are licensed by the state to carry firearms, he said.
He would not say what types of weapons they carry and exactly how many guards are employed. Bennett said church officials say that the state is overstepping boundaries to exert ''power'' over the church, including what the church perceives is an ''atheist'' agenda."

http://tennessean.com/local/archives/04/05/51530767.shtml?Element_ID=51530767

"A man accused of killing a Tucson police officer last year was convicted Monday on a federal gun charge.
U.S. District Judge Raner C. Collins found John Montenegro Cruz, 34, guilty of illegally possessing a firearm, Cruz's attorney, Brick P. Storts, said.
Cruz is accused of the May 2003 shooting death of Officer Patrick K. Hardesty, the first Tucson police officer slain in the line of duty since 1982. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.
At the time of Hardesty's death, a federal arrest warrant was out for Cruz for failing to appear in U.S. District Court on the gun charge."

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?page=local&story_id=051904a7_cruz