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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:43 AM
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Israel to strike Iran's nuclear objects in spring 2006
http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/366/16614_israel.html

Ariel Sharon reportedly plans to punish Iran's Ahmadinejad for his blatant anti-Israeli remarks

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon ordered the Israeli military command to prepare a military operation against Iran. An air strike on nuclear objects of the Islamic republic was set for March 28, Israeli military structures said. The date of the supposed attack coincides with the general election in Israel. Israel intends to strike Iran for the country's persistent arms race and anti-Jewish statements released from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

News messages about Israel's intention to fire missiles on Iran first appeared on the pages of Britain's Sunday Times. According to newspaper's sources in the Defense Ministry of Israel, Ariel Sharon will order to launch air strikes on top secret uranium-enrichment enterprises situated in different parts of Iran. The strikes (reportedly slated for early spring 2006) are to hit the nuclear objects located near settlements and industrial areas of Iran.

The above-mentioned terms of the operation, the newspaper wrote, is connected with Tehran's nuclear program first and foremost. Israeli intelligence officers found out that the quantity of enriched uranium that Iran would have at its disposal by the beginning of spring will be enough for making an atomic bomb. The first nuke could be made in only one year, though.

more...

WWIII escalating and we have an IDIOT at the helm!!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:49 AM
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1. You know the problems I have with this article
and others in the same vein....

please splain to me why would the IDF, one of the armies with the best records for OpSec, essencially go public with this?

What I think is going on is truly a bad case of saber ratling after the Iranian President said Israel has no right to exist and went on a fine holocaust denial spate barely two weeks ago.

But Israel first give its war plans to... a british paper and now pravda?

No... if they are going to do anything it will not involve air operations, nor any date near to what these articles mention.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:44 AM
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10. I think you're right.
Israel does have the best OpSec and they're not about to advertise their intentions to anybody.

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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:51 AM
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17. I think this is of significance:
The date of the supposed attack coincides with the general election in Israel.

Kinda like Bush invoking 9/11 when he wants his poll numbers upped, imo.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:52 AM
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2. Pravda? Once the official organ of the USSR?
Is this the same publication?
How reliable is Pravda?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:54 AM
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3. about as reliable as the NYT remember their saber rattling
You guys are right this is saber rattling and yelling rights...
Dangerous stuff...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:56 AM
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4. Yes it is dangerous
because any saber ratling may always escalate into actual warfare... only good news, the distance between those two... Israel does have missiles that can reach Iran, and lord knows what Iran has... but I doubt either of them will go into a missile exchange.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 02:59 AM
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5. I have had no doubt that Bush & Cheney will MAKE us go to war
Israel will have to fly over Iraq and I wouldn't doubt if they have help when they go over to IRAN...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:10 AM
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6. Yet another reason why you will not have the IDF
play, at least NOT until they are themselves attacked. Shin Beit and Mossad, as well as Military Intelligence realize that if Israel gets involved in any offensive operations the ME will explode.

So what you need to ask is how are the boys of PNAC force the IDF to play?

Now here is my likely scenario...

US attacks Syria and puts incredible pressure, some Syrian units stray across the Israeli border and exchanges do happen. by the tiem the dust settles Israel has gone into full mobilization and quite possibly offensive operations. They were attacked (perception) and they have to defend themselves. that is the only way I can see it... that or any variation on that which will force the IDF to get involved.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:16 AM
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7. They have missile that can reach EUROPE
Russian make Sunburn missile.
I wish Isreal good luck.
You cant beat Iran in ground battle
And gee if it is a missile exchange
What are you going to do with a thousands incoming?

Hmm maybe they bomb each other back to stone age.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:33 AM
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8. Given the Israelis have 100 nukes that we know off
Edited on Wed Dec-14-05 03:33 AM by nadinbrzezinski
can you say mushroom cloud?

I still contend these stories are pure saber rattling though... they have an element of danger, located in DC, but they are saber rattling

My god Armagedon 2089 comes to mind once again, great RPG, it is the background that is almost prophetic.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:47 AM
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11. That they maybe have
But dont need nuke 1000 incoming missile just as deadly.
After all destruction is destruction.
Overkill plain waste of resources.

How does they want to measure a win?
Who kill more?

Gee both going to hurt bad.

Iran will fight back for sure.
Israel do a strike, Isreal in the wrong.
A subjective threat become reality
THE POWER OF NIGHTMARE..... WAR ON TERROR.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:53 AM
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12. that is why I am saying all these stories
are pure saber ratling. the IDF would NOT go public with this plan, if the plan had any smidgne of reality... OpSec, that is all I am saying
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:21 AM
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14. Very true
But Iraq did get invaded. Crazy time with crazy people at helm.
Roaches tends to crawl out of woodworks.
Crazy things happened
All history repeating.
Like you always say Read Da History.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:38 AM
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9. I'm with you
While Israel definetely has 'plans' of invading Iran, this aadministration 'plans' on invading seveeral countries. It doesn't mean it will necessarily hahppen.

And I seriously doubt Israel would announce something like this. Osiraq comes to mind. The IDF and the Mossad are veery stealthy and extremely secretive. I recall reaading 'By Way of Deception', a great book on how the Mossad operates.

This very likely is just saber rattling after the Abehnijad's (or whatever that nutcases's name is) rantings.

Granted, Sharon is also nuts (though not as nutty as some in his government), and Israel is capable of something like this (and it would be disasterous for Israel as well as Iran), but it's not in Israel's nature to announce invasions.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 03:57 AM
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13. I only know of one exception to that rule
and it did not even involve Isreal, just before we invaded Iraq, Peter Masbridge of CBC had a great interview with Tariq Azzis... well in the interview Masbridge asked, how do you plan to defeat the Americans

This will be another Vietnam for the Americans

Mansbridge had taht look of desbilief, "Sir there are no jungles here"

Tariq Azzis turned to the window and pointed to the city outside... yes, yes we do, they are made of concrete... I sat there dumbfounded, as I raelized, is anybody in the Pentagon even listening to this? He just gave the plan away...

As you know, the Iraqi army melted and we have been fighting a war of atrition in an urban jungle ever since.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:51 AM
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15. This was already reported last weekend
and Israel issued a denial.

Gov't Officials Deny Plan to Strike Iran

Dec 11, '05

The Sunday Times in London reports that Prime Minister Sharon is preparing for a possible strike on secret uranium enrichment sites in Iran. Israeli officials deny.


Quoting unnamed military sources, the report states that Israeli intelligence warned its government that Iran was operating small enrichment facilities concealed in civilian locations. The Times says that Sharon has ordered the military to prepare for a possible strike by the end of March.

Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom and sources in Sharon's office deny the Times report. "Israel is dealing with the Iranian issue only with diplomatic tools," Shalom said. Sharon staffers said the paper's report is totally untrue.

It is known that Iran will be able to build a nuclear warhead 2-4 year after it receives the technical expertise to enrich sufficient quantities of uranium - known as the "point of no return." No country will be able to bomb the reactor once this point is reached, for fear that the radioactive fallout will harm an unknown number of thousands of civilians.

http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=94571
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 09:18 AM
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16. Looks like Invading IRAQ brought peace and stability after all....NOT!

so, our army is spent running around the globe, invading Iraq, and now we are ill prepared for a massive war..

WW3 will not be televised!

happy hollidays!
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