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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:00 AM Original message |
IDF girds for terror, warns it may cut power to Gaza |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. You just don't know where to start with this. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. it was tried...funny how its forgotten |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 06:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Question - |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 06:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Yeah, it's funny |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 06:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. The PA isn't sending the Qassams. n/t |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 07:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. It's not doing anything to stop them, either. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-24-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
67. It is trying |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-24-05 06:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Trying? |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-24-05 10:51 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. And what would that capability be? |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 07:59 AM Response to Reply #74 |
89. Even what they can do, they aren't |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 08:41 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. I fail to see |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. And what is Abbas doing to stop it |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 02:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. another excuse.... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 02:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Uh, the thing is that the PA isn't firing Qassams... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 02:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. yes it is... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 04:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. well... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 04:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Just curious... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:08 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. anything the settles do.... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:20 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I asked for some links to examples, pelsar... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. my quote: |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. In my first post I specifically referred to extremist settlers... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. your misreading my intention.... |
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GatoLover (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. Murders of Palestinians by Israelis |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. The discussion was about responsibility... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 12:36 AM Response to Reply #38 |
53. but the israeli govt is still responsable |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
46. I'm convinced. But hey, I'm easy. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 07:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. What buds are you talking about? |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-24-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
68. Quite a difference |
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GatoLover (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. You're right, the settlers are the responsibility of the Israeli gov't |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-24-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
69. See post #68 n/t |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 12:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
62. Some appenders do just that |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 12:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
78. More delusion |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I told you three months ago the Qassams would not stop. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. "do something about their grievances" |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. You conflate two different things. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 02:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. violence begets violence |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 04:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Don't you think Palestinians have any grievances?? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. grievances.....so they should kill.... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:17 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. The vast majority of Qassams don't kill anyone... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:35 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. most kassams dont kill enough peole |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:45 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. My argument wasn't that they don't kill enough people... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:47 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. so?...... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:50 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Read what I said, pelsar... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:04 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. suggestion.....? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. I suggested what Israel shouldn't do... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 12:55 AM Response to Reply #39 |
54. and thats a cop out.... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 04:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. There's quite a few things I can't come up with a solution for... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-26-05 01:45 AM Response to Reply #64 |
98. but thats the crux: |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 02:33 AM Response to Reply #39 |
58. Fervent prayer? Fasting with sack cloth and ashes? |
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GatoLover (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Heavy handed and illegal measures? Please! |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Yes, heavy handed and illegal... |
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GatoLover (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. What? Calling off an electric power cutoff |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. No. Threatening it in the first place... |
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GatoLover (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. OK, I give, you're right |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 07:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Excuse me? I didn't say anything like that! |
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GatoLover (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Good! I'm glad. What DO you think the proper response should be? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 07:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I've already answered that question in this thread... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Hey, I'm not the one complaining about the situation. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. nor do you have a solution... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Yep. Must be me. No doubt I created the whole mess. nt |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Don't forget my role in it! n/t |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 07:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. True, my evil twin. nt |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 07:56 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. You got some spare time this afternoon? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 12:58 AM Response to Reply #32 |
55. perhaps this then bears repeating... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. I have not once condemned Israel. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 07:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
47. Deleted message |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 08:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. What are you going to do about it? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 10:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Deleted message |
pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 01:07 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. so?...... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 10:20 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. What, a new diaspora? nt |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 12:57 AM Response to Reply #56 |
80. What do the last 2,000 years |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
61. Maybe the "changes in policy" advocated by some are |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-24-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. Project much? |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-24-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Your comments are noted. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-24-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Thanks |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 12:22 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. care to be consistent? |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 12:34 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Care to think? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 01:25 AM Response to Reply #77 |
84. yes i agree... |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #84 |
93. Really? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-26-05 01:28 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. do you even live in the middle east? |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 02:31 AM Response to Original message |
57. HRW - Israel: Gaza Power Cut Would Violate Laws of War |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Not according to |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-24-05 03:20 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Congrats, the analysis in that post, of the situation is wrong, again. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-24-05 03:28 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Deleted message |
pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 12:25 AM Response to Reply #57 |
76. and your suggestion is? |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Wait? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 12:59 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. whatever! |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 01:03 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Yeah, actually |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 01:06 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Same for Israelis... |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. Sure |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 01:30 AM Response to Reply #79 |
85. question still stands.... |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. FACT still stands |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-26-05 01:05 AM Response to Reply #92 |
95. not much of a suggestion....no surprise.... |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 02:42 AM Response to Reply #76 |
86. From where? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 04:19 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. if it works to stop killing israelis |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 04:46 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. collective punishments are bad... |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-26-05 01:31 AM Response to Reply #87 |
97. Here's the thing - |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-26-05 10:43 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Englander, I think he is interested in your opinion |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-27-05 03:00 AM Response to Reply #97 |
101. i am interested.... |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-27-05 04:14 AM Response to Reply #101 |
103. I have a few suggestions. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 07:23 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. real concrete suggestions: not vague comments |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 03:54 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Sorry, pelsar, I'm not playing. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. violet at least tried... |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 08:19 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. HRW's statement |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-27-05 12:18 AM Response to Reply #86 |
100. HRW states specifically that Gaza is still Israel's responsibility: |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-27-05 03:04 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. since its description is wrong |
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