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eyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:31 AM
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Hamas website: Kids, die for Allah
A new, attractive website for children was recently launched on the net. The site features animated figures and stories that young children could easily relate to.

However, unlike ordinary sites catering for children, this particular one is operated by Hamas and its main objective is to advocate suicide and self sacrifice on behalf of Allah.

According to Israel's leading newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth, the site, whose name means "The Victor," glorifies death and suicide for God.

In one instance, a caption that appears next to a picture of an animated girl throwing stones at IDF soldiers, reads: "Death for Allah is victory, the victory of the glorified heroes whose names will forever remain in the hearts of millions of Muslims across the world."


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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:41 AM
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1. That is child abuse! .....training little kids to commit suicide.
I wonder what the U.N. has to say about that. Probably, nothing.
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:49 AM
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2. You actually believe this anonymous shite?

Wow, talk about gullible!
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:50 AM
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3. They couldn't give the link?
Yes, I want to see it and yes, so do you the reader.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:53 AM
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5. here
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:53 AM
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6. Thanks ...
wow, kinda creepy looking.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:52 AM
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4. Who on DU can read this?
http://www.al-fateh.net/

to confirm that that is what they're saying.

Though, who knows if this really is *their* site - could be a put up job designed to make them look bad.

If it is their's, though, it's very disturbing.

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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:04 AM
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7. Does anyone read Arabic?
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 09:14 AM by Englander
I found the website mentioned, via the v. weird CNS*, notice that Ynet don't
give the address, I wonder how accurate the descriptions, & translations given
are? Not very, most likely. Also, Ynet fail to mention that the source for the info
about this website is from Palestinian Media Watch;

'Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) is a right-wing Zionist propaganda outfit.

Would you believe PMW?

PMW is (2004) run by Itamar Marcus, an Israeli settler who has been heavily criticized by Akiva Eldar, a Ha'aretz journalist, for his deceitful propaganda when he used (1998-2000) to run another outfit called CMIP. A sample quote from this criticism is as follows:

"In recent years Marcus has been making a living translating and disseminating defamatory communications against Israel, extracted by his staff from Palestinian publications. Marcus, a settler, used to work for David Bar Illan, Benjamin Netanyahu's PR chief, and served on the Joint Israeli Palestinian Anti-Incitement Committee. Marcus's center routinely feeds the media with excerpts from "Palestinian" textbooks that call for Israel's annihilation. He doesn't bother to point out that the texts quoted in fact come from Egypt and Jordan."

http://student.cs.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/php/authors.php?auid=2856

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Hamas Website Encourages Kids to Become Martyrs
By Julie Stahl
CNSNews.com Jerusalem Bureau Chief
March 08, 2006

Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) - A new Hamas website for children encourages them to become suicide bombers.

The homepage of Al-Fateh.net shows a cartoon of a girl using a slingshot to throw rocks, presumably against Israelis. (The first Palestinian intifadah started in 1987 with rock-throwing at cars. The current trouble also started with rock-throwing in September 2000 but quickly moved into live fire and terror attacks.)

An animated banner at the top of the website shows a young boy riding a horse and waving a sword over his head as he rides through a desert filled with saguaro cactus, which is a symbol of the American desert southwest. (The website's creator, located in Beirut, may think that saguaro cactus grow in Israel, one analyst speculated.)

The website also offers stories about "martyrs," said Palestinian Media Watch, an independent Israeli media watchdog.

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More about PMW;

'Conflict brought to Mount Pleasant

>snip

The woman, Linda Olmert, came from Jerusalem to talk to these students Monday. She is the media director for Palestinian Media Watch and the sister-in-law of acting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. She is also a friend of Earl Cox, a locally based Christian activist who has devoted himself to rallying evangelicals to the Israeli cause.

Olmert's visit here comes at a critical time for Israel. Hamas, the militant Islamist group responsible for numerous suicide attacks, recently took control of the Palestinian government, increasing already high tensions. Add to that the approaching Israeli elections, which kick off later this month, and the stage is set for more drastic changes. To Olmert and American Christians sympathetic to Israel, all of it makes this an ideal time to further Christian-Jewish relations.

>snip

Olmert has given such presentations in other U.S. cities, as well as in Israel. She said the purpose is simple: Knowledge is power.

But critics argue the intentions of the Palestinian Media Watch serve a more complicated agenda. Nathan Brown, a George Washington University specialist in Palestinian politics and media coverage of the conflict, said criticisms such as Olmert's tend to omit important details.

"It's extremely selective," he said.

Brown contends that the footage typically used in such presentations favors only the negative and never focuses on Palestinian strides toward peace.

http://www.charleston.net/stories/?newsID=73297§ion=localnews
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:55 AM
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9. so ynet is now unreliable.....
I wonder how accurate the descriptions, & translations given
are? Not very, most likely


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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:52 AM
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8. Picture sections of site?
http://www.al-fateh.net/ja/atfal.htm

scroll to the bottom for more page links
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idontwantaname Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:19 PM
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10. i have a team of arabic translators...
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 01:24 PM by idontwantaname
but seriously this "appears" to be a religious conservative muslin site. i dont know that id be too hard pressed to find a similar zionist site or anti-homosexual site ect...

one question i have is who exactly is the audience for this? rich muslim folks who dont live under occupation?

clearly its not for the "everyday" palestinian... who have little resources for this kind of activity...

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edit- #47 from the articles comments section:

47. http://www.al-fateh.net/

Muslims use a very complex formula of Lies, then they Whine "Poor Me" then they Kill and Lie some more. The one unique thing is that they use the cover of "religion". At least the Nazi's did not try to call their group a religion. I can't wait until my country realizes Islam for what it is and closes every mosque aka terrorist headquarters. I am not a Jew and not even a religious person but I love the Israeli people and what they stand for.

Michael , Bella Vista, AR - US (03.08.06)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:37 PM
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12. Right. Because the excuse
everybody does it is such a compelling argument.
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idontwantaname Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:39 PM
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13. not an argument at all...
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 01:41 PM by idontwantaname
i posted my argument below that comment.

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one question i have is who exactly is the audience for this? rich muslim folks who dont live under occupation?

edit- try viewing the other pages besides the main page and tell me what you come up with.
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idontwantaname Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:32 PM
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11. i wanted to throw some rocks at the IDF...
but the shit dont work. CLEARLY A ZIONIST PROPAGANDA WEBSITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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idontwantaname Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:44 PM
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14. ZIONIST WEBSITE!!! DONT BE FOOOOOLED!
check out the guestbook

http://www.hdrmut.net/guestbook/gb.php?userid=15536

click on the 3rd bar to the right at the top.
hamas would crap a brick with all these ladies on their page... theyre not even covered up.
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 03:04 PM
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17. Zionists like Japanese anime?
This is the point?
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idontwantaname Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 03:06 PM
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18. close but no cigar. n/t.
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 03:11 PM
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19. Ah! I've got it then. HAMAS must like Japanese anime.
See?
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idontwantaname Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 03:13 PM
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20. warmer... warmer... ice cold. n/t.
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idontwantaname Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:23 PM
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21. this is not a difficult question. n/t.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:25 AM
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22. Locking
There are many hate sites of all types/descriptions/creeds/manifestos up on the Internet.

Unless someone can provide proof this is officially or at least some semi-official link to Hamas or some other similar player, then I'm locking this as non-news.

Lithos
I/P Forum Moderator
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