Israel Could Kidnap Half of Hamas Ministers: Israeli Minister

Poll_Blind

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Tue Jun-27-06 09:36 PM
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Israel Could Kidnap Half of Hamas Ministers: Israeli Minister

From AFP via Focus News Agency (never heard of 'em but I guess Google News has):

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�If we decide to start kidnapping Israel will have no problems into penetrating the Gaza Strip and kidnapping half the Palestinian government,� Benyamin Ben Eliezer said.

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Again, I don't think giving in to the dark side is a good idea.

PB

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barb162

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Tue Jun-27-06 09:52 PM
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1. looks like it's from Bulgaria

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Igel

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Wed Jun-28-06 11:39 AM
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7. Yes, the first 'private information agency'

Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 11:40 AM by igil

in Bulgaria, according to the site, around since 2000. ("Фокус� е първата българска частна информационна агенция, която работи от юни 2000 г.)

Never heard of them. But I don't care about Bulgarian, or, really, about Bulgaria. (Did some gutenberg-eu Bulgarian stuff, though.)

Today they're adding that Israel's pushing into the West Bank a bit, something like 40 jeeps, targetting some Hamas leader. Or at least the building with a Hamas leader in it. (http://www.focus-news.net/?id=n515663 is the link, but it's Bulgarian.)

ON edit: English-language link http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?catid=138&ch=0&newsid=91227

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AlamoDemoc

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Tue Jun-27-06 09:55 PM
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2. Will Israel ever recognize Palestine existence? That's the question

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Behind the Aegis

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Tue Jun-27-06 10:03 PM
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3. Will the current Hamas-led government ever recognize Israel's existence?

And not some half-assed..."we'll do it for this many days, in a leap year, with the moon in Scorpio, whilst a unicorn runs across the Gazan plains."

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AlamoDemoc

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Thu Jun-29-06 06:47 PM
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11. I think The Elected Government of Palestine in conjunction with

Palestinian President Mr. Abbaas agreed a document that for the first time agrees the existence of the state of Isreal...and which it states that the existence of Israel is no objection...and that Hamas government would recognize Israel with its borders prior to 1967.

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kalimera

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Thu Jun-29-06 06:50 PM
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12. Hamas resists Israel recognition

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5122822.stm

Hamas says all of Israel is built on occupied Palestinian land
Rival Palestinian political factions Fatah and Hamas have reached agreement on a common political strategy to try to end a damaging power struggle.

However, Hamas negotiators have denied earlier reports that the deal meant the militants would implicitly recognise Israel - a major policy shift.

The full text of the accord has not yet been released. A Hamas minister said it did not have "one word" on the issue.

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AlamoDemoc

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Thu Jun-29-06 07:10 PM
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13. You read Israeli newspapers...and it shows

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kalimera

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Thu Jun-29-06 07:13 PM
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14. The BBC is Israeli??? n/t

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AlamoDemoc

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Thu Jun-29-06 07:42 PM
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15. The BBC have been threatened by the Israeli government time and again

many BBC reporters were taken out of Israeli/Palestinian assignment because they reported the truth outside of IOF' hearsay. The BBC looks good from outside, but afraid from inside...just like many news organization that critique the Occupational Forces.

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kalimera

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Thu Jun-29-06 07:44 PM
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16. Somehow that makes the BBC an israeli paper?

:beer:

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AlamoDemoc

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Thu Jun-29-06 08:24 PM
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17. your making me anti-BBC, which I am not, but they are restrained

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Lithos

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Tue Jun-27-06 10:07 PM
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4. Lack of basis

Looks to be highly speculative.

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Poll_Blind

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Wed Jun-28-06 12:15 PM
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8. Attorney: Targeted kidnapping necessary

From YNet News, emphasis mine:

Amnon Zichroni, who took part in past prisoners exchange deals on Israel�s behalf, says regarding Gilad Shalit kidnapping �as soon as we know which organization is behind the soldier�s kidnapping and who the organizations deems important, then we will know who to kidnap�; adds: Military intervention would be dangerous because soldier is injured

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Zichroni said Israel has attempted such targeted kidnappings in the past, such as in the Ron Arad affair.

�When I was involved in efforts to release Arad Israel kidnapped Lebanese guerilla leaders Sheikh Abdel Karim Obeid and Mustafa Dirani, and although the kidnappings did not bring about Arad�s release, they did help in obtaining information,� he said.

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Lack of basis?

PB

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Erika

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Tue Jun-27-06 10:50 PM
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6. Israeli Jihad?

Yet both are the seed of Abraham. What happened to W's peace plan?

And, more interesting, why are we giving taxpayer dollars to both the Israelis and Hamas.

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cali

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Wed Jun-28-06 12:47 PM
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9. Agreed.

giving in to the dark side, as you put it, is a lousy idea. It's a lousy idea for Palestinians too. Sadly, while the Israelis may be threatening to kidnap Hamas figures, Palestinian militants have given in to the 'dark side' and captured two Israeli civilians. One is almost certainly dead.

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chimpymustgo

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Wed Jun-28-06 02:47 PM
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10. Who's killed the most? Israel wins that one hands down.

You might not want to go there.

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