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CoffeePlease1947 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:09 PM
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How would you end the I/P conflict?
Radical problems require radical solutions. How about this idea. Require Isrealites to marry a Palistian and all Palistians to marry an Isrealite.

This way they would killing their own families if they fought. In 50 years 85% of the population would be half and half. They couldn't hate themselves. They could not attack, and both people could live in the same place at the same time. Both enjoy the Holy Land promised them.

I know, stupid, but it is possible to inter mingle the races if they can learn to get along.

Mike
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:13 PM
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1. Step 1
My first step would be to cut off all aid to Israel
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:27 PM
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5. In light of Israel's influence in both parties are smart pres
would bribe them out first, failing that cut them off.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:14 PM
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2. Sharon is on to your idea
that is why Israelis are essentially forbidden from marrying Palestinians and if they do, then they have to live outside of Israel!!

I guess the idea is that the occupied territories will fill up with Israeli-Arabs that are sympathetic to Israel rather than Israel trying to encourage enough 'Jews' to emmigrate to offset Arab population growth...which is inevitable of course
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:22 PM
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3. For a second there I thought that I/P was for Intellectual Property
My solution for that is to void all patents and trademarks since big biz like to abuse the hell out of it.

As far as the other I/P goes...I would release both sides from any ABM treaties they have signed in the past and let them go at it.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:23 PM
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4. Step 1: The President Says of the Occupation:
"This will not stand."

Step 2: The 1967 borders are enforced with escalating threats: the threat of withdrawal of American aid, UN-enforced embargo, followed by possible international military intervention. The holy areas of Jerusales might be an exception, to be administered internationally.

Step 3: Secure the border. Use UN or US peacekeepers, like those near the Golan heights, to prevent cross-border attacks.

Step 4: Compensate Palestinians, where necessary, for the loss of confiscated homes and property. Do not allow repatriation to Israel.

Step 5: Strengthen the Palestinian economy.

Do I think this would work? Absolutely. Unless Israel opts for nuclear blackmail. Expensive, but not half as expensive as our current policy.


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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:33 PM
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6. Stop all military aid to Israel, disarm it, flood both w humanitarian aid

22% of Israeli households do not have enough food now, and in Palestine, child malnutrition rivals the Congo.

The best way to end the conflict is to give Israel a chance to stand on its own two feet and develop friendly and productive relations with its neighbors and become a peaceful respectable, responsible member of the community of nations that complies with international laws and conventions.

The Israeli people deserve that - not the weapons dump and gangsta paradise they have now.

Send Sharon to the Hague and appoint Uri Avnery as provisional head of state pending new, free, fair and open elections with international monitors and without US involvement in either Israel or Palestine - ever!

The US can write a blank check to Gush Shalom and one to the Red Crescent for humanitarian aid and repair of civilian infrastructure.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:39 PM
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8. Hear hear! Well said. I especially like the idea of Avnery being
made up to PM. Jings, would that have Ben Gurion and Golda spinning in their graves!
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:51 PM
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12. Oh, brilliant. Just brilliant
Stop all military aid to Israel, disarm it, flood both w humanitarian aid.

So above and beyond refusing to sell them arms, we actively disarm the nation of Israel? With what? Our own armed forces? Sounds rather like, oh, I don't know, war to me.

The best way to end the conflict is to give Israel a chance to stand on its own two feet and develop friendly and productive relations with its neighbors and become a peaceful respectable, responsible member of the community of nations that complies with international laws and conventions.


So let me make sure I understand the sequence here.

We disarm Israel, and then allow it to make nice with it's lovable, warm and fuzzy neighbors who, once they saw that Israel was defenseless and unarmed, would take it to a picnic, offer it a coke and try to sing in perfect harmony with it.

Just like they've always wanted to do all along.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:04 PM
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14. They could keep rifles, homemade rockets and rocks

for self-defense.

That would take care of accusations that Israel uses disparate force against Palestine.

A disarmed, demilitarized Israel has a chance to exist.

A rabid psycho pitbull Israel, as we have to day, has a zero chance of continued existence.

Although I recognize that this has been discussed before, and fans of the Israeli regime have explained that once Israel and the US succeed in killing everyone within about a 3000 mile radius of Israel, things will be just fine.

I do not think that this plan is in the best interests of ordinary Israelis or ordinary Americans.

I do think that Israeli children deserve a country they can be proud of.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:36 PM
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7. No aid of any type to either side. Let them fight it out, winner take all
It's not our fight. Screw both of the petulant, self-righteous sides.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:41 PM
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9. If <<<I>>> were Mother of the planet
I'd escort ALL the fundie nutcases to their rooms, no TV, no blintzes, no baklava (and lock the door from the outside just so they know I mean BUSINESS) and those of my children who have made a concerted effort to work out their differences would be given run of the house. I extend my deepest condolences to ALL those in Haifa whose sincere and menschlich efforts were so brutally sabotaged.

These are not "races" Mike. Indigenous Palistinians and Jews are all SEMITES. This horrific bullshit is the politics of religion and colonialization. IT IS BULLSHIT.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:43 PM
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10. All The Men Get A "Time Out" & WOMEN TAKE OVER
and I am not kidding.

This infantile back and forth violence is what you get with a MALE DOMINATED world view.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:49 PM
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11. Israel should flood the Palestinians with money and jobs
Then they'll get busy with their jobs. They'll come home and watch cable television on their big-ass TV sets. They'll pop open a beer and listen to the "news" which will tell them that everything is just peachy.

Then they'll go to bed and do it all over again the next day.

They'll talk about what kind of new SUV to buy instead of why they should be killing anybody.

If you think I'm joking, I'm not.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:02 PM
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13. Locking
Per I/P Guidelines - Not based on a recent news or op-ed article

Lithos
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