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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:01 AM
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Israel says all options open to stop nuclear Iran
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"Israel does not rule out any options in preventing arch-foe Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said on Monday.

"We are not ruling out any option," a senior government official quoted him as telling parliament's foreign affairs and defence committee.

"Anything that can lead to preventing Iran from nuclear capability is part of the legitimate context when dealing with the problem."

During US President George W. Bush's landmark visit to Israel last week, the Jewish state said it was keeping all options on the table if economic and diplomatic pressure fails to halt Tehran's controversial nuclear programme.

"All options are on the table," Israel's US Ambassador Sallai Meridor told reporters. "They are on the table if we get to the point, and I hope we don't get to the point, that diplomactic and economic preferred alternatives will fail to produce the hoped for result."

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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:17 AM
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1. Translation: The USA will do our dirty
work for us, as always, and is already at work whipping up the frenzy and pounding the war drums against Iran. Oh, yes, and WE are the only country in the ME allowed to have nuclear weapons!
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:28 AM
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4. Not really
Israel has it's reasons for wanting to take out Iran and America has its reasons for wanting to do the same. Nuclear nightmare is an umbrella excuse for both. Call it evil synergy.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:19 AM
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2. Posturing buffoons. nt
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:24 AM
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3. All of them
America's, Iran's, and Israel's
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:30 AM
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5. Yes. That's what governments are all about, most of the time
And the rest of the time, they're worse.

This sort of posturing buffoonery is how governments assert themselves, like the 'displays' of animals threatening potential intruders. Too little of it and you seem weak to the others who are engaging in their own 'displays'; too much of it, and you can actually provoke something serious. I hope and expect that it will remain at this 'cold war', "I could beat you up if I really wanted to bother!" level and will not escalate to anything worse.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:34 AM
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6. It's almost like a rule.
They should have little mascots like sports teams to lead cheers and stuff. And cheerleaders. They could wear ethnic costumes. I don't know how they can get up and do this stuff in public without being ashamed.

:puke:

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:41 AM
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7. Israel said the same thing about Iraq, and now we have over 9,000 dead GIs to show for it.
Big Brother in Jerusalem needs Emmanuel Goldstein to keep the permanent war going.

I am sure the Ministry of Truth's proxies will take issue with this.
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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:29 AM
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8. We went to war in Iraq
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 10:29 AM by Lurking Dem
for Israel?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:58 AM
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10. From the lips of Hillary Clinton, in justifying the occupation of Iraq
The United States’ security would be undermined if parts of Iraq turned into a failed state that serves as a petri dish for insurgents and Al Qaeda. It is right in the heart of the oil region. It is directly in opposition to our interests, to the interests of regimes, to Israel’s interests.

Hillary Clinton
March 15, 2007
as told to the New York Times

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0315-02.htm

And let's not forget Hillary's prowar speech to AIPAC last February in which she said that all options were on the table on Iran, including the use of bunker buster tactical nukes. Hillary received a standing ovation as she spewed her war speech.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:56 PM
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17. We didn't go to war in Iraq for Israel
We went for oil, contracts and empire. Israel is pretty far down the list - I'm pretty sure the Senator from New York was trolling for votes; criticism of Israel is verboten in NYC.

Iran is a different story, though. Israel has long wanted to take out Hezbollah's strongest supporter.
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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:52 PM
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18. Oh yeah.
The one that voted for IWR and Kyl-Lieberman.
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:58 PM
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12. You didn't know?
Jews control American foreign policy; in fact, Jews control the whole world, including the money, banks and media.

So yes, of course Jews forced the US into war with Iraq, for Israel.

:sarcasm:
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henank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:36 AM
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9. When did Israel say the same thing about Iraq? n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:55 PM
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11. Who the fuck is 'Big Brother in Jerusalem'?
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 12:56 PM by LeftishBrit
Sharon? If so, then why didn't Bush start pulling out of Iraq when Sharon became incapacitated? Olmert? What makes you think he's so powerful? He can hardly maintain any influence in his own small country, so how do you think he can control a much bigger country thousands of miles away?

By contrast, no one, except the real LaRouchie nuts, speaks of 'Big Brother in London'. Blair - who was far more actively involved that anyone in Israel, both in the war itself and in the deceptions that promoted it, is accurately termed 'The Poodle'. Why is Olmert 'Big Brother' and not, at most, another 'Poodle'? Well, I daresay I'll be labelled as a 'proxy of the Ministry of Truth' for saying it, but *this whole theory simply makes no bloody sense*!!!
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:56 PM
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13. Perhaps it would do us all well if politicians stopped "dancing like a trained bear on every issue
according to the tune of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) or the evangelical pastors."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/944032.html

That is from a story in Haaretz that is about what the author (a former Israeli politician) sees as positives (and not so positive) in the US political system.

What we could use in the US is more frank talk like this in our media about how US politicians pander to different lobbies, including pro-War lobbies like AIPAC. Seems to be an easy thing to do in Israeli media.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:14 PM
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14. Damn, that is an amazing quote.
The talkbacks on that are very entertaining.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:37 PM
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15. i always thought of politicians liked trained seals, awaiting the next
herring thrown to them by their trainers, complete with the honking sound. I do concede that Politicians sometimes act a bit more complex than seals. Sometimes even more complex behavior than bears.

Other times they sit down next to lobbyists, tapping their toes, playing footsie and waving wildly, hoping to get some satisfaction.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:51 PM
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16. I think of them as actors in a play, or a movie.
You know, Ahnuld, Stallone, Bruce Willis? Only not in as good shape. And all of the public political discourse is a staged drama, sort of infotainment meant to sell you some worthless merchandise.
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