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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:47 AM Original message |
Bush’s Remarks on Refugees Spark Outcry in Jordan |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
1. to this president, money is the solution to all woes . . . |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. maybe we can make it work for us |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. I'd even pay for a couple that can't afford it |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. "Money trumps.. um.. peace, sometimes." |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. And it always ends up in his corporatist pocket |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. And how he can steal\bankrupt us until we are a 3rd world country |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. they are chasing the same dollars . . . |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
6. I can't stand Bush either |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. So no "Next year in "home village"" then? |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Time for a new "next year" thought |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Hmmm. So their homes, their parents homes, their grandparents homes |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Those homes aren't standing anyway |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Wanna compare statistics and events leading to each expulsion. |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Sure, let's go head to head with the comparisons |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Arabs may have, but Palestinians did not. Why is it ok to conflate all Arabs with Palestinians |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. That's true |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Except that Palestinians are made to pay the price for the deeds of others. How is this ok? |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Why do you not see the similarity |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I think that compensation needs to come from the perpetrators, not another group. |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Well, let's not forget |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 05:37 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Can we agree that all expulsions are immoral? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. What's the irony? |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Gladly. |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. I see |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Limited right of return is a possibility |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. How ironic |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Funny how folks cannot see the tragic irony in all this. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Isn't this the same for many people? |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Yes to all-- and that means all-- not just one people. |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. But the point is |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. It is rank hypocrisy to claim that . . |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:34 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. As far as you know? .... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 06:49 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. So it doesn't count if they were forced to walk? |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Your examples don't address the question very well. |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
68. I must add that they address the issues more than the response |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Where did we do that? |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 03:06 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. But how do you reconcile this with ....... |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:33 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. But you seem to have no problem with the idea |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 08:23 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Carving out a new state? |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
67. That's a word combination that I don't recall seeing in the news: |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Your understanding of history is a bit skewed |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I have never suggested otherwise .......... |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:34 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Please explain your post then |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Being "legal" does not make an action moral ..... |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Are you consulted about whether you would like Algerians or |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. But you presumably voted for a representative..... |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. So we're back to square one |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Only if you cannot understand the concept of morality ...... |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. So racism is moral? |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. You seem to be confusing 'inhabitants' with 'ethnicity' ..... |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Huh? |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. No change of subject at all - I thought we were discussing 'legal' and 'moral'. |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. I understand what you are saying. |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. But did they have the right to self-determination? |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Self-determination? |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Interesting choice of words... |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. "return" is used to indicate an end to the diaspora. |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. The idea that historic home takes trumps current land ownership is insane. |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Um, no one said that. |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Here again you are confusing the issue...... |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Now you are being ridiculous |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. where are you getting this stuff? |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. All I'm saying is, "return" to a place you've never been is a bit of a stretch. The phrasing |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. News to me. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Shakti, if land-cleansing in order to ensure viability is news to you |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:15 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Have you read this Benny Morris interview? |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. The British were the representatives of the inhabitants . . |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Are you saying the Brits consulted ........ |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Deleted message |
kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. And you think that moral? |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Yeah OK, The Brits started WWI . . |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Now, now, don't be 'snarky' ..... |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. What would I have thought? |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. You would have welcomed aliens intending to rule over you? |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Considering that the Jews were the persecuted minority (dhimmi) |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. How about if we change just a few words in your post. |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. And the answer to my question? n/t |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Yes it is |
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