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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:27 PM
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"Wanted" Palestinians save Jewish family from refugee camp lynch
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"I need to find them in order to say thank you," Shlomo Dickman said of his Palestinian rescuers afterwards. "There would have been a very bad ending if there hadn't been good people there that really wanted to help."

Abu Lele said his efforts were just a humanitarian gesture and typical of Arab hospitality traditions. "We support the continuation of the Intifada," he said, "but, this family's mistake is not connected. We are talking about innocent civilians and it is forbidden to harm them."
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http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en.jsp?enPage=ArticlePage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enDispWho=Article%5El2860&enZone=Security&enVersion=0&
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Stupdworld Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:32 PM
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1. bud dickman what?
/hendrie
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:37 PM
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2. non sequitur?
or is this an east coast-west coast thang?
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:31 PM
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3. Thanks for posting this!
n/t
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Equinox Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 06:14 PM
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4. Incredible story....
Kind of debunks the myth that all Arabs are blood thirsty Jew killers...

It's nice to hear stories like this:

A Palestinian identified as Mahmoud, who is wanted by the IDF for his membership in the al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade terror group, said that when he saw the youths throwing stones at the car, he went to see if he could help the trapped family, Yediot Aharonot reported. "I tried to protect them. We weren't armed, but residents of the camp know us, and follow our instructions. I ordered them away, and then called my friends."

One of the Palestinians who arrived at the scene was Fatah Tanzim leader Jamal Abu Lele. "The family didn't want to get out of the car or talk to us when they first saw us," Abu Lele said. "After awhile we managed to start talking to the father, who was on the phone with Israeli police. We told him not to be afraid. We told him we would take responsibility over his family until they were out of the area," he added.

I hope something can be made from this...and I wonder why I didn't see this on the news?

:shrug:
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 01:54 AM
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5. Humanity
This wasn't on the news because it would break many stereotypes, that's why. There a humane people everywhere. If only they had the final word, both in Palestine AND Israel..Sharon not being one of them..
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:13 AM
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6. No myth exists
Israelis know their neighbors. When Arabs assist their Jewish neighbors, such as rescuing those trapped in a flooded home, this is reported. There is no "myth that all Arabs are blood thirsty Jew killers".
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:19 AM
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7. Well
I hope you are right Gimel. Because some people even here claim that their only goal is to achieve genocide against Jews. I am glad you don't think so..:thumbsup:
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Equinox Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 08:37 AM
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8. Um...yes there is...and some here at DU believe it, Gimel....
:eyes:
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:17 AM
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9. About Israelis
Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 09:39 AM by Gimel
Yes, I'm afraid so.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:37 AM
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10. Nooo
Oh come on Gimel. You know that's not true...:(
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:51 AM
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11. remember, bluesoul
Gimel also thinks that freezing settlement expansion (on already illegally occupied land) is "genocide" on Israelis.
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Equinox Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:53 AM
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12. It's a topsy turvey world.....
:eyes:
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:22 AM
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13. Never said that
Your are attributing your own fantacy to me, Resistance. I don't appreciate it. Natural growth, i.e., prohibiting childbirth was the reference given by PM Sharon. That is a separate issue from "expansion". Do your lungs expand when you breath? Is reproduction an unnatural development in your athiestic view?
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:23 AM
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14. yes you did
Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 11:24 AM by Resistance
You called it "genocidal" to ask Israel to freeze the settlements.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:26 AM
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15. Sharon
Talking about Sharon, how do you feel about this quote from him Gimel?

"I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they shall do."
Ariel Sharon, In an interview with General Ouze Merham, 1956.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:18 PM
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18. probably a canard
Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 02:22 PM by foo_bar
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/7/18/61043/8053
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:27 PM
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21. Sharon
Or the original text was then deleted when someone might use that against a PM of a state. There are many other quotes from Sharon that no one disputes from the same source so I'll choose to trust them more then you..OK?
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 12:01 PM
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16. This is a wonderful story
It shows that all is not lost and that there is hope . Thank you for sharing it.
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Equinox Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 12:52 PM
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17. Bump...
This story deserves more attention amidst the chaos happening there now.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:20 PM
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19. it raises an interesting question
When the subjects claimed they're for the Intifada, but against hurting civilians, what does that mean? Is it a variation of "not in my back yard"ism; that partisan Palestinians might wish harm on the enemy, but only the abstract enemy and not an actual human life at the other end of the dinner table? Even a sizable portion of suicide bombers have a last-minute change of heart when they meet their intended victims (or so Harper's magazine would have me believe). Or is there a parallel thread of the Intifada that only justifies military/political targets?
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:23 PM
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20. damn that Harper's magazine!
That's the one that Bill O'Reilly hates so much isn't it?
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Equinox Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:38 PM
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22. Foo_bar...
The Intifada is not slimmed down to suicide bombings. While suicide bombings are a part (and a very monstrous part at that) of the Intifada, it is by no means the only method. Intifada is resistance plain in simple. Whether shouting obscenities at the IOF or throwing stones, shooting at the IOF or suicide bombings - it's all part of the intifada.

In other words, one can still be "for the Intifada" but be against killing or killing civilians. I would imagine it's up to the individual's perception.
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