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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 05:23 PM
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Time to say goodbye
Edited on Fri Apr-16-10 05:26 PM by shira
:popcorn:

Time to say goodbye
Israel should bid east Jerusalem Arabs farewell instead of supporting them
Guy Bechor
Published: 04.16.10, 13:58 / Israel Opinion


The world does not recognize Israel’s sovereignty in east Jerusalem, and now the United States forbids us from building there. However, Israel is paying a dual price: It’s not recognized as having rights in the city’s Arab sections, yet at the same time it financially supports the residents of these areas.

We offer welfare payments, allowances, medical services, pension plans, education, infrastructure, and all the other social benefits accorded by law to 250,000 Palestinians, most of whom reject Israel and view themselves of part of a future Palestinian state, should one be established.

As we applied Israeli law to these areas, the Arabs who live there enjoy the status of resident, they get an Israeli ID card, and they can freely travel across the country, with all the terroristic and criminal implications this entails. We are dealing with thousands of people who have no attachment or connection to Israel, and whose inclusion within Israel was a historical mistake.

The time has come to correct it now; this absurd situation cannot go on any longer. Fortunately, these people boycott the local elections in Jerusalem, which they do not recognize. Had they participated in the vote, they could have taken over city hall.

more...
http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3876517,00.html
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 05:27 PM
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1. They were there first! Remember anything before 1946?
Edited on Fri Apr-16-10 05:31 PM by county worker
Really funny, kick people off their land and then wonder why they don't like it.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 05:32 PM
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2. I wonder if Guy feels that way about American subsidies to Israel? Ungrateful bastards
take our money and then tell us to bend over?

Time to cut 'em off all way around!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 05:47 PM
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3. Our subsidies have a lot to do with all the arms Israel is required...
...to purchase from U.S. manufacturers - so our tax money is really going to subsidize American arms corps. The whole deal is ridiculous! imo we shouldn't be subsidizing Israel OR arms manufacturers.
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unabelladonna Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 05:51 PM
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4. 2 billion
most of which is a loan...not a gift. do you feel as strongly about the billions we give egypt and the PA?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 06:07 PM
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6. it is foreign aid not a loan and more than 2 billion
right here

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

as for aid to Palestinians that is here

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS22967.pdf

why post what is so easy to prove a lie?

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unabelladonna Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 07:52 PM
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11. thank you for the link...
i stand by my claim with the exception of the %26 allowed to purchase israeli-made armaments.
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shaayecanaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 11:11 PM
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12. Im not sure how you can do that...
first of all, the aid is not a loan, and it is closer to $3 billion than two. You can stand by your claim all you like, but that doesnt make it any less erroneous.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 06:00 PM
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5. I was kinda hoping you were saying bye.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 06:19 PM
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8. LOL me too!
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 11:45 PM
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15. Yes, I was disappointed as well
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 06:13 PM
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7. Ingrates!!1!
:P
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 06:19 PM
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9. Welfare queens of the Arab world, I guess.
Them and the Haredi...
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 06:51 PM
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10. The world finds Israeli settlement activity illegal under international law so
Edited on Fri Apr-16-10 06:53 PM by MUAD_DIB
what's the answer: have a tantrum and punish others?

The Israeli right wing assholes have all the answers. Just as long as they're the ones doling out the punishments everything is fine and dandy.


Perhaps Israel would be whining a different tune if the world shut them off from all funds, right?

Perhaps Israel isn't up to the responsibility of acting responsible.



On edit: the first comment to the article said it best.


1. Beautiful article! Now change "Arabs" into "Jews"

And let me see you publish this article anywhere outside Stormfront.
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shaayecanaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 11:14 PM
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13. I completely agree with the article and its conclusions...
again, it is good to see that some Israelis are grasping the concept of enlightened self-interest.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 11:26 PM
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14. Well, it's "interesting" and "different". I'll say that.
I don't know that I would want to try to reduce it to some coherent form, such that one could agree or disagree with it.
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