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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 12:20 PM
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Likud to PM: We will need to annex W. Bank settlements
Edited on Mon May-16-11 12:20 PM by Recursion
http://www.jpost.com/VideoArticles/Video/Article.aspx?ID=220783&R=R1

More than half of the Israeli public would support responding to the unilateral declaration of a Palestinian state at the United Nations General Assembly by annexing West Bank settlements, a poll sponsored by Likud MK Danny Danon found.

Danon announced the findings at an emergency meeting of Likud MKs and settler activists at the Knesset that was intended to pressure Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu not to make concessions when he goes to Washington later this week.

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The poll was taken the first week of May among 500 respondents representing a statistical sample of the adult Israeli population, including Arabs. When asked whether they would support annexing "settlement areas in Judea and Samaria in response to the unilateral formation of a Palestinian state," 54.5 percent said yes, 30.4% said no, and 15% had no opinion.

According to Danon, the Likud position on the matter was clear. "Implementing Israeli sovereignty is the only answer to a one-sided declaration from the Palestinian Authority. We, the members of the Likud in the Knessed, will work this summer to pass Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Samaria, our historic heritage."


One day, I hope, Israel will have a government that values its people's lives and safety more than other people's land...
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 12:37 PM
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1. Israel is a failed idea.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 05:38 PM
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5. Seems like they are doing well enough
They have slapped down all foreign military challenges and have a pretty high standard of living. They also hold the high cards in the their dispute with the Palestinians.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 10:06 PM
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10. the point of Israel was to be a safe haven for Jews.
Edited on Mon May-16-11 10:06 PM by provis99
I would gather it is probably the country in the world with the highest rate of violent death to Jews. Hence, it is a failed idea. Jews are safer in America, Europe, South America, South Africa even.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 10:11 PM
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11. If you look at it that way, I guess
But it is also the world's only Jewish state, which certainly counts for something.
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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 11:51 PM
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14. ummm...
except that for the most part Jews only exist now in the US and Israel. Everywhere else they were ethnically cleansed or exterminated.

Which would suggest it was quite successful. Saying that Israel is probably the country in the world with the highest rate of violent death to Jews is meaningless if it is the only place Jews still live in significant numbers.

I know of no Zionists who share your opinion.
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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 11:46 PM
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13. why is it...
that people only react to Israel's poor policy choices by decrying the state's very existence?

No one called america a failed experiment because of the iraq war.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 12:54 PM
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2. Israel was built on other people's land, and it has never stopped taking more.
If ANY other country were contemplating this, it would be called an act of war.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:59 PM
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3. The land was Turkish and British owned before being illegally occupied by Jordan
According to the League of Nations, all land west of the Jordan is the Jewish homeland, so Israel does have a legal claim to the land that cannot be revoked unless and until a Palestinian state is established and Israel recognizes it.

Too bad the Palestinians have rejected every single offer.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:15 PM
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4. according to the nonexistant League of Nations?
and yes according to the Altalena flag of Likuds parent party the Irgun or Etzel Jordan is paart of the Jewish homeland, however the UN partition of Palestine never awarded Israel or the Jewish State the West Bank did it?

It would seem that as we have been so frequently told here the Jewish state agreed to the UN's plan that the League of Nations plan was nullified
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:04 PM
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6. The same League of Nations that carved out Israel's neighboring countries...
Edited on Mon May-16-11 06:05 PM by shira
Legally, the Territories are still governed by the League of Nations Mandate because no legal sovereign entity has yet been designated to govern the Territories. The League of Nations Mandate specifically stipulated that the administrative power over the whole Palestine Mandate was to facilitate Jewish settlement of the land.

Supporting Evidence: The Mandatory powers "shall facilitate Jewish immigration…and shall encourage…close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes." Article 6 League of Nations Palestine Mandate. <51>

<51> Palestine Mandate Charter at http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/mideast/palmanda.htm

http://points.stand4facts.org/bin/index.cgi?ChapterID=4#_edn51
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:33 PM
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7.  Israel agreed to the later UN version which made the WB part of Jordan n/t
Edited on Mon May-16-11 06:33 PM by azurnoir
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:35 PM
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8. There was no later version giving the WB to Jordan.
Jordan illegally occupied the WB from 1948-67. It was never given to them and no nation has had sovereign control of that territory.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:58 PM
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9. was the West Bank part of the Jewish State according to the partion plan Israel agreed to?
Edited on Mon May-16-11 07:01 PM by azurnoir
no it was indeed part of the Arab State and Jordan is an Arab country or will you claim otherwise?
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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 11:43 PM
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12. this might be the dumbest argument i've ever seen proposed here. np
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 01:26 AM
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16. as opposed to citing the League of Nations?
well you are entitled to your opinion, however name calling only emphasizes the emptiness of your own argument, wait you did not provide any
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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 11:53 PM
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15. every other country has already done it.
how do you think countries start?
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