Sharon-Abbas meeting canceled as sides trade barbs

Both Israel and the Palestinians confirmed Tuesday
that a meeting scheduled for Wednesday between
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his Palestinian
counterpart Mahmoud Abbas has been cancelled.

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"Abu Mazen cancelled the meeting because it will
only be ceremonial on the day prisoners are
released, and he believes the Israelis not
doing enough to promote the road map," a senior
Palestinian official said, using Abbas's nom de
guerre.

There were reports that Sharon had called off
the meeting due to Sunday night's shooting
attack near the Har Gilo settlement, in which
four Israelis were wounded, but Ehud Olmert,
Minister of Industry and Trade and Deputy Prime
Minister, told Army Radio that Sharon had not
set any conditions for the meeting to take
place and that he believed Abbas was responding
to pressure from PA Chairman Yasser Arafat.

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PA Chairman Yasser Arafat expressed
dissatisfaction with the scheduled prisoner
release. "They say they are going to release
400, and then they turn around and arrest 800,"
Arafat told reporters at his Ramallah compound.
"What is this? Is this deception? Are they
deceiving nations?"

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No women were included in the list, which was
published at the Prison Service website,
http://www.ips.gov.il.

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Meanwhile, there is grumbling in the U.S.
administration about Israel's failures in
meeting its commitments under the road map,
specifically the slow pace of removal of the
outposts established after March 2001. Sharon
promised Washington last week that he would
remove another 12 "unauthorized" outposts.

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Speaking in Jerusalem, Poraz said that while the
Palestinians are unable to stop all terrorism,
Israel cannot halt all construction in Jewish
settlements in the West Bank and Gaza. "So
there is a balance," he said. "No one respects
100 percent of their obligations."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/325815.html

no, we can't quit building settlements, we are physically unable to because our hand picked puppet can't control the actions of every last creature living in the West Bank and Gaza.

mighty potent serums, they've turned out to be. Very ingrained certain mythologies. Have you noticed. This whole thing beat for beat and stroke for stroke is like a guy who insist's, "how dare she change her mind," because this particular guy loves all those lyin' "tails" so much, it seems his fairytale is that it becomes impossible to stop once he starts his ride.

Hah, now that I that I think about it, perhaps Sharon is the one started that fairytale as well, because as analogies go, this one fits snug as a sausage linked tight within some pretty transparent, but strong and hefty skin. As myths go this is one hellava screw. You know what I mean?

rationale. What if a U.S. city mayor said we're not sending police into your neighborhood until all the robbers, muggers, and murders leave? It's the same rationale Sharon has been using for years and it just seems to be acceptable to the world. Israel really must have a lot of power and wealth to control so many politicians and media corporations in so many countries.



Abbas-Sharon summit cancelled
http://theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030805.wmide0805/BNStory/International/

That is choice, isn't it?
Speaking of weasels.

against weasels everywhere.

Hold on to The Dream. Power to the Initiative!

with all of those Palestinian women?

We need a slide presentation to figure this out? However, I really don't know the true answer to your question.

Does Colin Powell discount continuing in office if Bush is elected for another term? Or does Bush plan to pass over him when choosing a second term cabinet? Those are the rumors. They are everywhere.

It's not the I/P conflict, it's has to do with gossip and overly zealous reporting.

That is the reason for all the rumors. It is tactic set in place to distract and blur any real insightful vision or decisive investigative probing. Questions hang in the air with no answers.

The idea is to get all the followers to repeat these rumors or bandy them about round and round it goes. Some believe the rumors to be true, others (versed in disinformation techniques) know which ones are true but are paid to perpetuate those most false, with the smallest minority of the group, who can see beyond the mirage, crying FOUL.

The trick is to delay the truth. That way no foregone conclusions can be made with any real substantive proof so minced and strewn about, until the whole thing becomes a fait accompli.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/05/international/middleeast/05CND-MIDE.html?hp

"JERUSALEM, Aug. 5 — The Palestinian prime minister, Mahmoud Abbas, today pulled out of talks with Ariel Sharon of Israel after complaints over an Israeli plan to free nearly 350 Palestinian prisoners.

The meeting would have coincided with the prisoner release on Wednesday, but the Palestinians say the release does not go far enough and want amnesty for all or most of the 6,000 of their jailed compatriots."

Who thinks all the prisoners should be released?

That would be the US-Israeli hand-picked Palestinian PM Abbas. Says so right there in the first sentence.

who here wants all the prisoners released? Thank you for bringing my error to my attention.

Another question is why is the IDF not releasing *any* Palestinian women?

I found this but it is another overview without any details but judging from the photo this looks an issue, but I remain am unclear about this as well. I pulled another small blurb from the article that struck me as more of a play on Iran... In fact rumsfeld is briefing us on C-span right now concerning Iran... He is saying their are sr. ALQ members there and have been... they want the Iranian to hand them over....

little blurb

In a further complication, top Israeli security officials said today that Iran was financing and directing new Palestinian violence.

link: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/06/international/middleeast/06MIDE.html?ex=1060747200&en=c793212f1577e516&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

Israel seems to be complying with the PNACers' wishes to completely attack Syria and Iran. Which one with we destroy first?

It seems the DOD is looking for a way into another preemptive here. However, they've taken a bit of a hit on those falsified Niger docs, it will be interesting how they justify it.

miftah 2001

snip
# Since its occupation of the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, Israel has carried out over 600,000 arrests<1>. During the current Intifada, which began on September 28th, 2001, Israeli occupation arrested 1,900 Palestinians; approximately 1,000 of which are still held in custody. Israeli authorities have placed 17 Palestinian detainees under administrative detention<2> in Megiddo prison. The number of Palestinian women detainees is 37 including 16 young girls<3>. These women have been subjected to severe beating by Israeli interrogators. Amna Mona and Sawsan Turki were admitted to Abu Kbir hospital for medical treatment this year as a result of beatings<4>.

http://www.miftah.org/Display.cfm?DocId=79&CategoryId=4

march 2003

http://www.miftah.org/Display.cfm?DocId=1843&CategoryId=2

I am still looking if I find anything in addition to what is here. I will post again.