Mother, 4 children, killed in Gaza shooting attack

A mother and her four children were shot dead Sunday after two terrorists opened fire at Israeli cars traveling near the Kissufim Crossing at the entrance to the Gush Katif settlement bloc in the Gaza Strip.

Two soldiers and an Israeli civillian were also wounded in the attack and were evacuated to Soroka Hospital in Be'er Sheba.
The IDF said that both of the gunmen, who arrvied at the area by car, were killed in an ensuing firefight.

Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack, Channel Ten reported.

The family is from the settlement of Katif located in the northern Gush Katif settlement bloc.

The terrorists arrived by car from the nearby Palestinian village of Dir al Ballah and began to fire at passing Israeli vehicles, consequently killing the mother and her four children. Another Israeli traveling in the opposite direction, was also wounded.

An IDF jeep arrived at the scene and engaged in gunfire with the gunmen, killing them.

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more about terrorists again butchering israeli children

cnn

That's the only way to end the violence on BOTH sides.

It has a good ring to it, but founders on the definition of "Palestinian land". The persons who committed this act, you may be sure, definie that term as every acre west of the Jordan....

dragging children into a war zone...

I noticed that this is the FIRST time you were concerned about kids in a war zone - The next time an Israeli citizen deliberately takes aim at a car with a non terrorist riding, I will agree with you.

it's a stroke of genius...

On Edit: Not the first time, though it may be the first time you noticed. Not that it matters to anyone but yourself in this case.

Expected response = Riiiight

You have a star, search your own posts and you wonder why your sincerity is under question.

You were better with the ol' "bait and switch".

but you can also search, don't expect anyone to do it for you. I will lose no sleep in regards to your feelings over my sincerity.

In regards to the supposed "bait and switch", you never did respond to the blatant selective (mis)quotation the J-compost, and yourself by extension, attempted to get away with in this thread. Whether you make a "sincere" remark or the usual tripe is entirely up to you, don. My cookies will crumble the same way regardless.

I copied the quote from the article....you just added to it.
It didnt require a response.

I didnt shamelessly try to quote someone else pulling off
the worst attempt at "bait and switch" in du history.

"My cookies will crumble the same way regardless."

interesting choice of words.

is not a virtue. For the record, no one can "add" to a quotation, save the source. Either it is correct or it isn't.

I'll kick the thread in question as we seem to have gotten off topic here.

If a thing like this were not turned into an occassion for scoring personal points off of one another....

The thing itself deserves notice: this was a deliberate targeting of civilians, without a shred of legitimacy as a military act. Any friend of the people of Arab Palestine ought to recognize such acts serve only to harm the legitimate aspirations of that unhappy people.

fighting fire with fire leaves nothing but ashes. However, such recrimination would carry more weight if it were more consistently applied, say in cases were no one has confronted and shown the drivel for what it is.

I think my stealth prediction just about hit the spot.

I predict some hamas leaders in the crosshairs soon...hopefully.

cnn now....2 airstrikes in gaza

Yassin
Rantisi
Zahar??

The target of the strike was the Hamas radio station, at least by current reporting....

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=5009100§ion=news

that killing Hamas' leader doesn't solve the problem. Either you sit down and negotiate or kill all of them. It has to be negotiations because killing all of them, besides being out of the question, will only create new problems.

but they(Israel) could have ARRESTED any and all known hamas members along time ago. They don't because they want to keep the war going and making them into martyrs every once in awhile helps as does making martyrs out of their victims. They Israeli security establishment love it when little kids die.

Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack, Channel Ten reported.

and from this thread:

Israel Radio said the two gunmen were shot dead by Israeli troops shortly afterward. Two Palestinian militant groups, Islamic Jihad and the Popular Resistance Committees, claimed responsibility for the killings in a telephone call to Reuters.

Oh well, does it really matter?

It really does not matter which of the various armed irregular Arab Palestinian bodies carried out this act, any more than it matters much whether an Iraqi is killed by U.S. Marines, Army, or Air Force personnel. All express, in their own way, the same national will; in conditions of warfare, any can be struck as their enemies are disposed to do, at any time.

has cleared the way for a brief foray into I/P once again..however, it is a pleasure to absorb the magistrates rhetorical musings ..this crime saddens me greatly ..as will the deaths on the Palestinian side which will surely follow..

This is the pattern of the terrorists operations. They time attacks for the moments when peace is glimpsed through actions taken to promote the desired result of two states living in peace. The referendum on the withdrawal plan was interrupted by this action. Sharon vows to continue with his initiative. It is his Rabin Moment, and he seems to have covered a lot of ground lately.

The attack assured a defeat of the plan, which helps the terrorists who vow to continue to humiliate through death of innocent people, to force a never ending conflict.

This totally barbaric act, intentionally murdering a woman and her four beautiful young children for political goals, is defining Israel and Israelis, who have suffered so much of this.

Wake up world.

Surely that's a joke. Sharon doesn't have the slightest bit of interest in any sort of peace, not unless peace is defined as a halt to attacks on Israelis while the Palestinian people still suffer with Israel having military control over Gaza, and Israel retaining huge chunks of the West Bank. No independent state could come out of that. But never mind that. I must rush out and see if I can get myself a little Sharon - Man'O'Peace commemorative coin made. Sure people will laugh at me, but I'll just tell them that Sharon and his Likudniks aren't really the main part of a right-wing government, but peaceloving people who just can't understand why they're not allowed to keep any bit of land they decide they want....

It was pretty clear even before this that the plan was going to be defeated by the Likudniks who believe that the Occupied Territories are part of Israel...

If the world waking up means that the world must ignore the intentional murder of Palestinian children while painting Israel as an eternal victim of a conflict where the only victims are Israelis, I suspect the US is the only part of the world that'll fall for that nonsense. Nothing justifies the murder of children, no matter whether they're Israeli or Palestinian, and nothing anyone's said has swayed me on that and probably never will...

Violet...

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Was it me pointing out that Sharon isn't interested in peace or a viable Palestinian state? Or was it me pointing out that nothing justifies the murder of children, no matter whether they're Israeli, Arab or anything else?

Violet...

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They are in control of the airspace over it. The air port in it, which they won't allow to operate. The seaports which they won't allow to be used, and the roads leading in out, not to mention a wall built all around it which Gazans can't tear down.

As for the Rabin comparison. That is just halucination pure and simple. Lukidniks are wackos. Sharon is just a moderate wacko.

It is Israel's defensive interest to guard any entrance points, which will be moved into the Israeli territorial side. The fence (not a wall) will remain. Control of air and sea is not military control of the area. Gaza is the land, not the air and sea.

That is like saying the inhabitants of a sieged castle control it. Bullcrap. Gaza can't fucking trade with anyone.

Legitimate trade is always allowed.

After I said that nothing justifies the killing of children, which is a stance I've held consistantly the entire time I've been at DU, you accused me of justifying the killing of children. Instead of explaining how my post supposedly did this, you embark on what appears to be a reply to a post of mine from another thread, because it certainly has nothing to do with the post in this thread that yr replying to...

So, are you going to answer the question, Gimel? The accusation you made was a pretty foul one and rather than going off on tangents elsewhere, I really think you should try to explain how you came to the conclusion from my post that I justify the killing of any children...

Violet...

The prevailing reason that I heard expressed by Likud members, was that Israel was giving the Palestinians a present by withdrawing from the Gaza Strip, and getting not a single assurance of peace in return. If the mechanism set forth by the Camp David settlement that returned the Sinai peninsula to Egypt is followed, there would have been assurances of a cessation of violent attacks. Obviously there is not. None of the Palestinian officials have even condemned the attack against Israeli civilian targets which killed an Israeli woman and her four children.

Hams strikes, Israel strikes, Hamas strikes, Israel strikes, hamas... no doubt revenge has already been taken but it will achieve little. Both sides need a leadership strong enough to stop fighting and start talking - even if unilaterally. Neither side will get one anytime soon.