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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 12:50 PM
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Ayoon wa Azan (No Political Solution)
More from Ayoon wa Azan; he really doesn't like Sharon.
He makes some interesting, not to say controversial,
comments, of which I excerpted a couple.


On the eve of 15th August, Abbas called me and asked me to contact
Islamic Jihad's outside leadership and ask them to restrain
themselves and not respond to Mohamad Sidr's assassination. He
also promised that he would go to Gaza and meet their leaders as
soon as he got back from Tunisia. I started calling friends to get me
through to Islamic Jihad's leadership, since Hamas and Islamic Jihad
have left Syria, and their press offices there have been closed where
phones ring off the hook. The thing is, which I conveyed to Abbas the
following day, is that they are furious and feel they have been tricked.
They say that they can no longer keep quiet over the killings of their
men one by one. I wrote some of their words in my column, without
mentioning any mediation. Two days ago, one of them said, "We
would rather die in a booby-trapped car than be killed in our homes
with our children, one after the other."

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I leave the Israeli peace activist Yuri Avneri to answer Mofaz. He
wrote that Egypt was not defeated in the October War and that there
is a victory museum for that war in Cairo. He says that Anwar Sadat
used his victory credit to lead his people to peace. He stunned
Egyptians by crossing the channel and destroying the Barlev Line.
Even defense minister Moshe Dayan lost his mind and said that he
was witnessing the destruction of the third Israeli state.

Avneri settled the issue by referring to a recent study conducted by
the Israeli army, itself, that Israel did not win the October War.

The resistance was not defeated in Palestine, and I quoted the
leaders of Hamas and Islamic Jihad on this in this column. They
accepted the truce, which they called "calming" in order to keep the
Palestinian solidarity, and to respond to Arab pressures. Who in turn,
responded to American pressures coupled with the usual promises to
implement the Roadmap, which ends, at the latest by 2005, with a
Palestinian state side-by-side with Israel.

daralhayat
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 01:38 PM
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1. It also would end of gravy train from the US treasury
and that would be a death-blow to a non-viable, failed colonial experiment.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 02:02 PM
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2. A political settlement with the Palestinians?
I am not sure what you are referring to.
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 02:25 PM
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3. Continuing from the last sentence in the post
"Who in turn,
responded to American pressures coupled with the usual promises to
implement the Roadmap, which ends, at the latest by 2005, with a
Palestinian state side-by-side with Israel."

A Palestinian state side-by-side with Israel would force a re-evaluation of the aid package. Most likely a downward evaluation. The gravy train would be cut off. No need for enormous military aid packages for a peaceful region. Israel would have to find its viability in that new reality or it will remain unviable till its collapse.
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 02:28 PM
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4. oh, hardly..
I don't think you grok what "two-states" means.

It means limited autonomy and the right for Palestinians to be exploited by Israeli industry at the expense of the Israeli working class with a figurehead Palestinian preciding over picking up the garbage and shipping water to Israel.

Aid will expand in this new "country" but not at the expense of Israeli aid.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 02:29 PM
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5. OK.
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