Police close Mount after just one hour

The police on Thursday closed the Temple Mount to
non-Muslim visitors at 10 A.M., an hour after the
site had been opened and an hour earlier than
anticipated.

During the hour when the mount
was accessible to non-Muslims,
it was visited only by tourists
and secular Israelis. No
religious Jews or members of
the Temple Mount Faithful were
allowed to enter the area. The
previous day, police had
permitted them to do so.

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/332349.html

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This is what the Waqf has been saying all along. There are not enough tourists to warrant opening the compound to tours. The crowds awaiting outside are these assorted nuts with cornerstone and red heifer in tow.

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM - In a new brazen provocation, dozens of "foreign tourists" and Jews, escorted by Israeli guards, entered Al-Aqsa mosque compound, one of Islams most holiest sites, Wednesday, August 20, drawing fire from Palestinian and Islamic leaders as well as Israeli peace groups.

After being close to Jews for three years, over 150 Jewish worshippers visited the site on Wednesday morning, as police authorized almost everyone who wished to enter the site at the order of by Israeli Public Security Minister Tzachi Hanegbi, reported the Israeli Haaretz newspaper.

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The initiative for visits came from occupied Jerusalem police chief Micky Levy, who felt the end of the U.S.-led invasion in Iraq had produced a "change of atmosphere" in occupied Arab east Jerusalem, the Israeli television said.

Israeli occupation forces are at the present banning Muslims under the age 40 from performing their prayers inside the holy site.

http://www.arabia.com/newsfeed/article/english/0,14183,416417,00.html

>>> Israeli occupation forces are at the present banning Muslims under the age 40 from performing their prayers inside the holy site.

This is self imposed given the sanctity of the site.

between your reverence for the Muslim faithful at A holy site and your obvious contempt "assorted nuts" for the Jewish worshippers at their HOLIEST site. Why the lack of respect for Jews and Judaism? And make no mistake, that is exactly what it is.

as in 'make no mistake', the "Temple Mount Faithful" are *nuts*. That's exactly what they are. That's exactly what I said, as is obvious to anyone with rudimentary reading skills.

He also likes to make insulting comments about my reading ability. My opinion of ultra-orthodox Jews does not distract from the fact that the religious aspirations of Jewish groups are denegrated by you, while the worship by Muslims, some of whom may be equally nutty, are spoken of respectfully by you.
The subject is your prejudice; what do you have to say about it?

they are heretical and have tried repeatedly to destroy Al-Aqsa Mosque, they are a cult with one mission and that is to blow the place up.

and I'm not in favor of destroying the Mosque. I was objecting really to newyorican's tone, which is not in evidence when speaking about Muslim "nuts"

I just know the ultra-orthodox wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole, Shas was going nuts over letting them in.

on edit: This is something important to understand I think, whenever this gets tossed around in this forum it's made to sound as though this is a "freedom of religion" issue between Palestinians and Israeli's and it's not it's a fight between the religious and secular Israeli's with the secular wanting in and the religious wanting them out.

Personally, "nuts" would not be the term I use (for reasons a bit out of place to go into here), but he seems to have been specifically referring to the people behind the link he provided. They also seem to have had a role, perhaps inflated in their own opinions but a role none the less, in the temporary re-opening of the location.

Looking over their page, I may have to rethink my dislike of "nuts" as the description, but as it stands..

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...The goal of the Temple Mount Faithful is the building of the Third Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem in our lifetime in accordance with the Word of G-d and all the Hebrew prophets and the liberation of the Temple Mount from Arab (Islamic) occupation so that it may be consecrated to the Name of G-d.
--snip--
Thanks to the intensive and constant campaign of The Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement over the last three years, the government of Israel today (20 August 2003) reopened the Temple Mount...

http://www.templemountfaithful.org/

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6. Rejecting false "peace talks" which will result in the dividing of Israel and the breaking of G-d's covenant. G-d promised to Abraham and to his seed that the land and the borders of Israel are eternal and cannot be divided and given to other people and nations.

7. Supporting the settlements in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, and the Golan Heights as they are holy. No one is allowed to break the Word and the Will of G-d by commanding the settlers to leave. In the Biblical era, G-d commanded the people of Israel to settle the land completely. This command is applicable today. The holy connection and covenant between G-d, the People of Israel and the Land of Israel is eternal.
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6. To buy a house in the Old City (Biblical Jerusalem) near the Temple Mount to establish a spiritual and educational center to be used by everyone. The four- ton cornerstone will be stored and exhibited on this site. This first stone of the Third Temple will soon be laid.
http://www.templemountfaithful.org/obj.htm

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President Bush stated that the war against Iraq is imminent. He should know that he is led by G-d in this. At the same time, G-d is calling on him not to make the terrible mistake which he stated in his speech regarding the establishment of a "Palestinian" state after the war. Perhaps by this statement he wanted to encourage the Arabs and so-called "Palestinians' not to be against this war. President Bush should know that he should not fear any of the Arab countries or so-called "Palestinians" or anyone else in the world which is against his step against Iraq because the Almighty G-d of Israel will be with him when he goes against the evil in Iraq. At the same time he should know that he is not allowed to try to obtain Arab or European participation at the expense of G-d's people, Israel. He cannot destroy one evil by making another evil. This is the Word of G-d which will never accept or allow the establishment of an evil foreign so-called "Palestinian' state or any other foreign state in the holy land that He promised and gave in an eternal covenant to Israel alone for an eternal purpose. G-d will never allow the destruction of His great endtime vision with Israel that He doing in Israel in these days. This major vision is a vision for all the world which will establish the kingdom of G- d and His laws and values throughout the Universe.

http://www.templemountfaithful.org/News/20030318.htm

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As for why these playful fellows might be referred to differently than Muslims (which newyorican has not done in this thread, favourably, differently--or at all for that matter), I don't recall any of the latter barrelling towards al-Aqsa with bulldozers & TNT.

let alone "worship by muslims" specifically.

It seems a simple request.

Rumbled. :freak:

So now Jews are nuts? Not enough visitors, this blather is not worthy of a serious comment. But I do want to say even if there were only one visitor, that one has the right to pray.

they are an apocolyptic cult that has tried repeatedly to bulldoze or bomb Al-Aqsa. It's like inviting Eric Rudolph into a gay nightclub.

not that I suppose it should matter but there are about a bazillion halacha rulings (one for every time some right-winger wants to walk around there) that say Jews aren't supposed to be in there anyway.

Before I'd get to mad though I'd leave it for you to consider that though Israel allows Christians and Muslims to enter Rachel's Tomb they are forbiden to pray there.

I must have been one of the last folks to visit the Temple Mount who wasn't Muslim. I was there just over three years ago. It was amazing. But the Mount is a holy site for both Muslims and Jews and an unbelievable attraction for the rest of us.