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vierundzwanzig Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 10:39 AM
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IOF Shoot Dead Two Teenage Brothers, Raid Palestinian Cities
Israel Allows Non-Muslims into al-Aqsa, Attacks Detainees in Megiddo prison

21/08/2003


Palestine Media Center- (PMC)

Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF) shot dead two Palestinian brothers, both in their mid teens, after raiding Tulkarem refugee camp in the northern West Bank on Wednesday when after Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon ordered a series of attacks against Palestinian targets, while Isareli police allowed non-Muslims into al-Aqsa compound and attacked Palestinian detainees in Megiddo prison wounding dozens of them.

In the northern West Bank, witnesses said Islam Ghanem, 16, was shot dead and his body was taken by the IOF raiding Tulkarem refugee camp.

Israeli sources confirmed a Palestinian was killed and said they had temporarily taken the body for “identification purposes.”

Shortly afterwards, medical sources said Ghanem’s younger brother, Sa’ed, 15, who had been critically injured by a bullet to the chest during the raid, had died of his wounds in Tulkarem hospital.

http://www.palestine-pmc.com/details.asp?cat=1&id=1009
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vierundzwanzig Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 10:40 AM
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1. Of course
that never makes it into the mainstream press here. They're just Palestinians.

And it'll go on like this for weeks. Shoot a couple here, a couple there until the death toll is triple that of the bus.

And nobody here will take notice.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 10:50 AM
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vierundzwanzig Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 11:07 AM
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3. The view is probably as balanced as that of
CNN. Which doesn't say much. But then you didn't say that much, either.

Of course they are all terrorists. Everybody they shoot are terrorists. The mere virtue of the fact that they have been shot makes them terrorists.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 11:21 AM
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5. No it doesn't
But a report that doesn't even mention the other side doesn't help much in trying to get a better understanding of what might have happened. Typically, CNN and even Faux give some statement from both sides.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 08:59 AM
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6. Wrong...
Reports can give statements from both sides that are deliberately crafted so that there's no way of getting a better understanding from it. Comments are picked so that one side is made to look bad while the other looks really good. Faux quoting a left-winger in no way means that it's giving a better understanding to anyone....

Violet...
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 12:25 PM
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9. For example
When it's obvious that people were killed in combat, that usually comes out right away. When a shooting is "under investigation" I get more suspicious.

Quotes CAN tell you something.
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vierundzwanzig Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 09:16 AM
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8. I agree
I believe the news are an age-old battle for the hearts (not minds) of the audience.

Unfortunately spin requires counter-spin. If you see Israeli body-parts you are so shocked until you see Palestinian body-parts. People think with their hearts and guts, not with their minds. This explains why people watch what they watch on TV.

We are merely semians.

I personally prefer indulging in Chomsky. But Chomsky's dissertations and disections are simply not for mass consumption. There is emotion hidden underneath so many facts that it almost impossible to 'feel' the data. I like Tikkun but it is more spiritual than activist. It requires you to actively 'explore' the symptoms in perspective.

I'd prefer to post something other than the usual blurbs but they simply don't lend themselves well to discussion. I have seen your attempts at looking at things from a bird's eye view (how they indeed should be judged) but they didn't go as far as they should. The board is plain not a focus group.
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 11:08 AM
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4. IOF is a better term tham IDF
tells it like it is
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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 09:12 AM
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7. Responsibility
Terrorists residing with civilians endanger the civilians. I do not see in the article whether those killed were armed or wanted.
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