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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 07:48 PM
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Were Mahmoud Ahmed & the Pakistani ISI the ones financing 9/11?
The record, I don't believe in MIHOP, but I think that some entity other than Al Qaida knew and perhaps helped move 9/11 along. I recently watched 9/11 Press for Truth, and I'm wondering if there is any more information on the ISI's possibly fore-knowledge of 9/11? One figure in particular is Lt. Gen. Mahmoud Ahmed, who has been accused of helping Ahmad Umar Sayed Sheikh, the guy who sent $100,000 to Atta. Now he also met with White House officials around the time of 9/11. I don't think this automatically means that our government was pulling a LIHOP, but it looks fishy. However, I don't think that Musharraf is necessarily involved in the ISI's financing of Al Qaida, because why would he provide support for us in the aftermath of 9/11? (Although he did fail to keep his promise in putting troops on the Pakistani side of the Tora Bora cave complex.)
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KJF Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 02:50 AM
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1. If you haven't already read it...
... you might be interested in this:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&the_isi:_a_more_detailed_look
It's the timeline for a more detailed look at the ISI.

It looks plenty fishy.
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 07:57 AM
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2. Look how Musharraf plays ball in pretending Bin Laden is alive
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:13 AM
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3. I think that Gen. Ahmad was good cop/bad copped after 9/11
Although it is impossible to provide evidence at this point -- but I think the Democrats will look into this -- Ahmad provided funding to the 9/11 hijackers at the request of elements within the US defense/intelligence community. To maintain deniability, however, these kinds of requests are made indirectly through operators who can be later identified as rogue elements.

In the weeks before 9/11, Ahmad was under intense pressure from more official elements of the US intelligence community to disclose or stop the attacks. That's why the House and Senate intelligence chairs, Bob Graham and Porter Goss, held urgent talks with Ahmad in Pakistan in August and why Ahmad was brought to Washington in the days before 9/11.

But the problem for someone like Ahmad in his dealings with the US is the US does not speak with one voice. Some were in on it and some weren't. I suspect Ahmad really was confused -- purposely -- and scared shitless.

I think his trip to DC was also used as a tar baby against potential investigators and other figures. Imagine poor Bob Graham, who undoubtedly was not in on 9/11, finding out after the attacks that he was having breakfast with the financier of the attacks on the morning of the attacks. Imagine poor George Tenet -- the guy screaming with his "hair on fire" to the Bush administration about the impending attacks -- finding out that he was having meetings with Ahmad, the financier of the attacks in the days before the attacks. No wonder Bush gave him the Medal of Freedom and he inexplicably cried while accepting it. Imagine the helpful little converstations that Cheney had with people like Graham and Tenet in the days after the attacks suggesting that it would be best for all if we just didn't look too deeply into the financing of the attacks or its connections to the ISI.

Clearly, Powell was blindsided by the attacks and clueless. To understand why, you have to keep in mind that Richard Armitage was virtually Powell's appendage. It was disclosed after the attacks and recently confirmed by Musharraf that Armitage called Ahmad into the State Department and demanded Pakistan's cooperation or face war with the US. But why would Powell/Armitage do this if they knew that Ahmad had funded the attacks and had done so at the request of Cheney/Rumsfeld? I think that Cheney/Rumsfeld used Armitage/Powell as the bad cop in a good cop/bad cop type scenario.

The main thing to keep in mind -- the main mistake that both truth movement activists and OCTers make when trying to understand 9/11 -- is that there is no red team/blue team mentality in international relations. There are factions inside Pakistan, there are factions inside the Taliban/al Queda and there are factions inside the US. Factions and individuals basically are looking out for their own interests and the interests of their constituents, not for the interests of something as amorphous as "The United States of America." 9/11 was pulled off by a loose coalition of terrorist, intelligence, financial and perhaps drug networks, in which no one had the whole picture and no one was completely aware of the other parts, with the possible exception of one or two puppet masters at the top (Cheney would be my candidate), but even they did not have the complete picture of what they set in motion.
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