Two Attas evidence for Sep. 9 (thanks to John Doe2)

http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.1704

Atta renting cars in Florida and Baltimore the same day he makes Boston. And Atta's also in NYC on this day or the day after.

Active guy.

And on the 8th he's quizzing farmers about cropdusters again, as though he'd give a shit about that when he was planning to use a jetliner just three days later.

The biggest discrepancy (not covered in above thread) is of course the Atta in Florida in Apr-Jun 2000, being spotted by Able Danger and a number of witnesses, even as he was also in Germany and had never been to the US until after receiving a visa in Berlin on May 18 and taking a flight for first entry on June 3rd.

Atta rented the car for 11 day 5 hours by my count on the rental agreement

Starting on 08/29/01 to 09/09/01. Assuming you count the 29th as a day, 11 days bring you to the 8th. So Atta must have dropped off the car very early on the 9th and caught a flight to Baltimore. If he caught a 6:00 am flight he'd be in Baltimore by 9:00 at the lastest.

In fact Sep 9 for Atta isn't the problem anymore cause it looks as if Al Shhehi had returned the car.
But what do you make of the following list sourced in the above mentioned link?


Atta on Sep 7:
reported drinking in Shuckums at least till 7 pm
reported being in Sarasota in a hotel close to where Bush stayed on Sep 10.
officially in Baltimore.

Atta on Sep 8:
Officially doing transactions in Baltimore.
Witnessed in Florida being interested in crop dusters. The story was also reported in the Report of the Joint Inquiry.

Al Shehhi on Sep 9:
officially in Boston
witnessed in New York.
witnessed being still in his hotel in Florida. (Witness his hotel manager). He was seen in the eve of Sep 9 and wasn't seen on Sep 10.

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NOBODY can come up with an explanation for the presence of two Attas or refute the accounts on which the conclusion is based??????

So what's your explanation for the two Attas on Sep 7 and 8?

Impostor

Doppleganger for able danger.

Fake pilots and fake "muscles".

Shadow play.



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That guy at Logan hadn't got longer, bushy hairs and narrower face??

The accounts of Atta at school in Germany do not match up with the personality of a vicious terrorist.

Also, Atta-the-pilot had all sorts of sleazy connections, wouldn't
be implausible for him to use a fake identity.

I would buy it.

The question if Atta and other alleged hijackers used fake identities is interesting but has no direct connection to the topic of this thread.
The mystery that Atta was seen on two different places at the same time on Sep 7 and 8 can't be solved by the use of any fake identity.
The question would be who is the second Atta and why on earth should al Qaeda go through all the hazzle on plant to Attas in the US??

Germans and other europeans in Florida.

Kerry-
your nice pics are information. Pleas give us the sources at least of the two first documents
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Especially since the fbi tried to destroy all pics available.

The doppelganger- effect was widely described in our book. Jack riddler obtaines a copy. Look for the double visa Atta got on one day, i.e.

The "pilots" had all doppelgangers who layed the trails and made them suspicious..

Besides: what happened in the congressional hearings concerning "able dangers" ?
I am not on top of the news.

medienanalyse, your book is certainly a groundbreaking work (besides Paul Thompson's article on the two Jarrah's) for proving that there are alleged hijackers and doubles.
The fact that Atta was on the eve of Sep 7 and in the day of Sep 8 at two completely different places at the same time adds another nail into the coffin of the official story.
For the sources: If you've a PC click on the pic with the right botton of your mouse and open the pic in a new window. The URL should show up (first americanradio second st petersburg times).

Yes there are many investigative efforts in the issue of doppelgangers. Paul about Jarrah, and Hopsicker found some nice Florida trails.

What I am missing untill now is the logical consequences. If the alleged hijackers were what they are said to be: the evildoers - why did they have doppelgangers ? Which made them suspicious like Atta parking his Cessna on the runway, jarrah driving too fast and so on.

The consequence is: they were not the hijackers. Next question is : was there any proof that they were the hijackers ? Fingerprints, videos, recognizable voices, genetic evidence by the bodies ? No.

I.e.: the body of Ziad Jarrah is allegedly iced in a FBI vault, like all the bodies of UAL93 and AA77.

Next step: so there is no sense to look for all the Saudi trails which anyway lead into the Nirvana. Paul does invest a lot of time in the Arab red herrings.

Next step could be to speculate about how 911 was technically done. Which stays to be theory. Much more efficient is to ask who leads the doppelgangers. And who opened the airspace ? That is definetly the key question which leads to the perpetrators.

I wonder why so many investigators who have good parts in their hands refer to red herrings, investigate deas ends, speculate about theories and so on. Truth lies open. PNAC and Krepinovitch openly said what they wanted and what they got.

I completely agree.

...AJ:
That’s where the evidence points. But what you’ve proven and what the news has proven is they at least received payments and training and protection and the FBI has been told not to stop these al Qaeda groups. Go ahead.

SH: Yeah, the witness I was talking about, personally met Atta - two Attas - Mohamed and the younger brother. And they are alleged to be two of the ones on the airliners. You know, the thing is, these individuals are, in my view, “patsies”. That is, they were paid by the government. I don’t believe that they themselves flew the planes into, as I said previously, allegations are that the government has this device that we codename Cyclops that allows, from an airbase nearby, to disable the pilot’s control of an airliners and to fly them by remote control.

AJ: That’s admitted. It’s decades old. It’s called Global Hawk.

SH: Yeah, Global Hawk, right. Of course, the government denied that it’s “deployed”. They say they’ve got the technology but they haven’t deployed it.

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