Did W actually say he saw the 1st crash on live TV?????

I know he's dumb, but that's not really true, right? anyone?

Is this some new unscripted outburst?

"Hehe hehe I thought that was a poor pilot, hehhe hehe"

"but what he meant to say was"

he saw the tape of the live crash
he was alive when he saw the tape of the crash
he saw a live ape in the trash

who knows. :shrug:

:rofl:

What was he watching - The WTC Network?

The only footage of the first plane hitting WTC 1 came from the Naudet brothers' documentary footage, which did not surface until hours later.

So, is he lying and trying to appear "vigilant and aware", or just fucking stupid?

Only Vice President Snarly knows for sure . . .

Could he be both lying and fucking stupid, Mr. Kotter?

(not responsible for bad 1970s TV references when half asleep)

After all, foreknowledge by the Naudets is hard to deny. One big lie beats a 63-part miracle, statistically speaking.
http://911foreknowledge.com/staged.htm


Ray Ubinger

They definitely knew what was going on while they were on their way to their pre-scripted alibi.

about the attacks before he went to the school. But there were no pictures that had been
on TV at that time, so the question is who took the pictures that he saw?

And why did he continue on the the school, knowing by the time he got there that the 2 WTC towers had been attacked?

I'm not sure if any news reports show that he knew we were under attack before he reached the school. I think there are some reports that just said he knew about the 1st crash, but nothing that he thought it was an attack.

Also, he arrived at the school at about 8:52 am which is before the 2nd crash at 9:03 am. The 1st crash was at 8:46 am.

See my other post: #12

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essayaninterestingday

Bush's Confused Recollection

Bush's own recollection of the first crash only complicates the picture. Less than two months after the attacks, Bush made the preposterous claim that he had watched the first attack as it happened on live television. This is the seventh different account of how Bush learned about the first crash (in his limousine, from Loewer, from Card, from Rove, from Gottesman, from Rice, from television). On December 4, 2001, Bush was asked: “How did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?” Bush replied, “I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower—the TV was obviously on. And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident. But I was whisked off there, I didn't have much time to think about it.”

he's up to his blotchy neck in 9/11, but we'll never find out.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0112/04/se.04.html

QUESTION: One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you've done for this country, and another thing is that how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?

BUSH: Well...

(APPLAUSE)

Thank you, Jordan (ph).

Well, Jordan (ph), you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."

But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack."

Notice Bush never eludes to which plane he saw crash or which tower he saw got hit in his first speech (other than saying Card came in and told him a 2nd plane crashed) and then notice what he says after he saw this highly unusual crash: "But I was whisked off there, I didn't have much time to think about it."




Let's just say it was the 1st plane crash Bush saw inside the school. Do you really believe the President of the United States was whisked off after this highly unusual crash so fast that he didn't even have time to think about it? Do you really believe they would have our Commander in Chief go ahead with some stupid non-important 2nd grade class reading without postponing it for at least as long as it takes to see if this highly unusual crash was really just an accident or not? I know 2nd graders can get restless and fussy if they have to wait a bit, but come on?

It's only in his second speech that Bush mentions seeing the crash live where he mentions which crash he was referring to and could have mentioned which one he saw to try to cover his slip of mentioning he saw one of the planes crash live on TV at the school:




The only crash Bush could have seen live on a TV at that school was the 2nd crash which was caught live on TV when he was in the school.

The first crash happened at 8:46 am and was not caught live on TV and for those who said he had a secret live feed of the 1st crash at the school (which would prove a conspiracy), it could not have been in the school because Bush didn't arrive at the school until the earliest reports of 8:52 am.




Now if you think Bush couldn't have seen the 2nd crash live on TV inside his holding room because he was already inside the classroom reading event, check this scenario out:

9:03 am - Second plane crashes into the WTC.

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60 seconds for Bush to be "whisked off" out of his holding room and into the classroom.

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9:04 am

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3 minutes from when Bush enters the classroom until Cards whispers in his ear. (based on video)

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9:07 am - The time some media reports have Card whispering in Bush's ear:



(It was mostly reported that Bush was told at 9:05 am, but this time could easily be explained as just rounding the time down to the more popular 5 minute interval.)


Is it impossible to believe that they just told us Bush went into the classroom moments before the 2nd crash, but if fact that he was "whisked off" into the classroom a minute or less AFTER the 2nd crash?

See my page about this for further details.

obviously you're not in denial about the cover up, but some will say, "oh, me must have meant the second crash." even if your breakdown makes sense, it certainly wouldn't excuse the president if he actually saw the second massive crash and explosion and then acted as he did.

because if that was the case I doubt he would mention it again in that 2nd speech.

Don't be confused, my theory he was talking about the 2nd doesn't excuse his action, I'm helping to point out that would incriminate him more for 9/11!

and it drove home the notion that this was a terrorist attack - exactly because it was the 2nd plane.

And he claims he saw "a" plane hit one of the towers, which he claims he figured to be caused by pilot error. In other words: not a terrorist attack because it was not the 2nd plane. Therefore he was talking about the first plane.

because he was at the school AFTER the 1st plane hit, but WAS at the school at the time the 2nd plane did hit and the 2nd plane WAS caught live on TV. It's the only one he could have seen live on TV at the school.

sometimes the thing with Bush is when you hear him mistate something...he is getting truths mixed up with lies...you know what they say about lying...you have to keep the lies straight

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Jordan. Well, Jordan, you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my Chief of Staff, Andy Card -- actually, I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on. And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011204-17.html

What was the first thing that went through your head when you heard that a plane crashed into the first building?

THE PRESIDENT: Yes. Well, I was sitting in a schoolhouse in Florida. I had gone down to tell my little brother what to do, and -- just kidding, Jeb. (Laughter.) And -- it's the mother in me. (Laughter.) Anyway, I was in the midst of learning about a reading program that works. I'm a big believer in basic education, and it starts with making sure every child learns to read. And therefore, we need to focus on the science of reading, not what may feel good or sound good when it comes to teaching children to read. Applause.) I'm just getting a plug in for my reading initiative.

Anyway, I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on. And you know, I thought it was pilot error and I was amazed that anybody could make such a terrible mistake. And something was wrong with the plane, or -- anyway, I'm sitting there, listening to the briefing, and Andy Card came and said, "America is under attack." http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020105-3.html


On two DIFFERENT occasions Bush stated that he saw the first plane hit the tower and said "That's one bad pilot". The problem with that statement is that the video on the first plane and tower was not available till the next morning. Unless he was set up with some sort of monitoring device he could have not seen that. If he was monitoring it that would imply foreknowledge. OK...knowing Bush and his Bushisms.....maybe he just misspoke....but if he did misspeak and he was really watching the second plane hit the tower........then what was that scene in the classroom with Andrew Card?
he can't have it both ways...either he saw the first one and was surprised at the second hit when Andrew Card whispered in his ear......or....he saw the second plane hit the tower and the scene in the classroom was a photo op.

I have emailed this to many news outlets....never hear anything...

that is why it took almost 1/2 hour to drive a distance that normally takes about 5 - 10 minutes and that's without the roads closed for the president's motorcade. When he arrived at Booker he already knew about the first plane and decided to just continue with his photo op anyway.

Keep in mind that all planes were supposed to take off by 8:01 AM and the attack should have been over by 9:00 AM. If the attack had gone off on schedule, Bush would have arrived at Booker just in time to find out the country was under attack and would have left immediately. Instead he had to stall until the Pentagon was hit.