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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 01:40 PM
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FBI says, “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”
Found this in GD. It may end up here, and, if it does, I will delete this thread.

Thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2671256

Original link:

http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html

On June 5, 2006, the Muckraker Report contacted the FBI Headquarters, (202) 324-3000, to learn why Bin Laden’s Most Wanted poster did not indicate that Usama was also wanted in connection with 9/11. The Muckraker Report spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page, Tomb said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”


I don't know how reliable this source is, but, there is a link to the government FBI site's Bin Laden page.

Seems to me that if we went to war to capture Osama "dead or alive", the least our gov could have done is to establish beyond a reasonable doubt that Osama was behind the 9/11 attacks.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 02:02 PM
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1. they didn't move it. it was scrubbed.
unbelievable. That's why I stopped donating money here.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:50 AM
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30. Ive asked 2 mods & the site admins so far and still no answer as to why.nt
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 02:05 PM
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2. September 16, 2001: Bin Laden Denies Involvement in 9/11 Attacks
Confirming earlier reports (Reuters, 9/13/2001) , bin Laden denies any involvement in the 9/11 attacks. In a statement to Al Jazeera, he states, “I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons.” (CNN, 9/17/2001) The US claims that he confesses his role in a video message two months later, but the contents of that video are highly disputed.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&startpos=1400#a091601noinvolvement
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 11:16 PM
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19. I remember when I read that he had denied it
it sure wasn't in the corporate media! despite the fact that it's a crucial fact. Then when the fake tape comes out where you can see that it's not him or the phony intercepted conversation, they repeat it 24/7. The corporate media is bought and paid for as part of the military/industrial complex and they are the only sources deemed "legit" by DU. Go figure.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 02:09 PM
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3. September 28, 2001: Bin Laden Again Denies Involvement in 9/11 Attacks
Bin Laden says in an interview, “I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States (see September 16, 2001). As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other human beings as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of battle. ... The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the US system but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology can survive. They may be anyone, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia. In the US itself, there are dozens of well-organized and well-equipped groups capable of causing large-scale destruction. Then you cannot forget the American Jews, who have been annoyed with President Bush ever since the Florida elections and who want to avenge him. ... Then there are intelligence agencies in the US, which require billions of dollars worth of funds from Congress and the government every year. ... They needed an enemy. ... Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked who carried out the attacks.” (Daily Ummat (Karachi), 9/28/2001)

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&startpos=1500#a092801osamadenial
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 03:03 PM
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5. They've never..
had proof of bin laden's involvement, because there wasn't any. Every single shred of evidence they have is composed of lying, rumor, and propaganda. Same as Saddam and Iraq. But, being the good lap dogs people are, they ate it up, and espoused it as gospel. Now we find ourselves buried under a ton of treasonous shit, and the only source of daylight is the 9/11 truth movement, and their determination to see this country breath free air once again. Thanks.
quickesst
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:15 PM
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11. I knew he had denied it early on. Have said so to disbelieving others.
Thanks for the links.

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 02:40 PM
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4. My original post appears to have been removed. I don't know why.
I've just written the mods to ask them.

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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 05:15 PM
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6. another quote from the same FBI guy
At George Washington's blog:
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/06/fbi-has-no-evidence.html

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But then I found this article from Wired magazine dated September 27, 2001:

"There's going to be a considerable amount of time before anyone associated with the attacks is actually charged," said Rex Tomb, who is head of the FBI's chief fugitive publicity unit and helps decide which fugitives appear on the list. "To be charged with a crime, this means we have found evidence to confirm our suspicions, and a prosecutor has said we will pursue this case in court."
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Wired link
http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,47109,00.html


GW asks: "If there's no hard evidence linking Bin Laden and 9/11 four and a half years after the attack, why is the government still blaming Bin Laden for 9/11?"


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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 05:24 PM
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7. Thank you for posting this originally
All credit belongs to you.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:06 PM
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8. Welcome. Don't need the credit, just some 'splainin' about it's removal
from GD-Politics forum.

No reply from mod yet.


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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:08 PM
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9. I think what might have happened
is that it was noticed that the same post was in 9/11, so maybe your's was removed as a dup. Can't say for sure, though.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:20 PM
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14. forbidden link?
Maybe teamliberty is a forbidden link?
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:21 PM
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15. I hope not
since I have it posted also. Do you think I should ask about it?
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Americus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:30 PM
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16. Is there a published list of sites that DU forbids links to?

How is one to know if it's okay to link to a particular site? Is it okay to reference something one read at a forbidden site if you don't actually provide a link to it? Without a published list to go by, someone could spend a fair amount of time and energy developing a point or refuting one, only to have all that effort deleted without so much as a warning.

Where can one find the list of sites which DU doesn't allow to be referenced or linked to?
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:38 PM
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17. As far as I know, Americus
there isn't one. I do know that anti-semite sites are not allowed, and, I believe there is a particular right-leaning site that is not allowed.

If I am wrong, I hope someone jumps in and corrects me.
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Americus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:46 PM
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18. That's a little scary. n/t

n/t
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:32 PM
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25. I'm sure you'll get used to it. n/t
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Americus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:09 PM
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10. OBL connections to CIA don't count.

Evidence that OBL has been a CIA asset for more than 20 years is not a good reason to even suspect he had anything to do with the events of September 11, 2001.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:17 PM
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12. Just let us blame you but we'll never actually catch you or try you.
I just don't believe that type of thinking is outrageous any longer.]

And it likely hasn't been for quite some time now.



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Americus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:48 PM
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13. Doesn't the word "Osama" mean "Patsy" in Arabic?

Whether it does or not doesn't change the fact that OBL is a longtime CIA asset who probably uttered a string of obscenities whenever the screen in his batcave flickered on with the news that the WTC had been "attacked".
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 05:01 AM
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20. By the way, I notice as of today, the site is charging to see the article.
Yesterday it was printed in it's entirety for all to see. Free.

I've also sent inquiries to two GD-Pol mods at the time of my original post removal and have not had any response at all.

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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:39 AM
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21. ??
:shrug:
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hpot Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 05:36 PM
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22. Google Cache Link
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:47 PM
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24. Thank you!
How do you find the cache link? (If it's not too much to ask.)

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hpot Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:45 PM
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26. No problemo
1.) Go to google.com and type in the web site's address.

2.) Click on the search button

3.) Use the link "Show Google's cache of ________(address)_______".
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:47 AM
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29. Thanks! I'll be using that a lot I think. xox nt
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 06:05 PM
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23. good catch....

Very interesting detail, there.
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KJF Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:31 AM
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27. Actually,
That is a really interesting idea. I'm sure just about everybody would be in favour of indicting Osama. We could gets lots of good stuff out of it.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:10 AM
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28. Yes, I think we would, Kevin. n/t
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