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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:45 PM
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It was one of the grandest propaganda schemes in history...
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 08:46 PM by kentuck
The CIA, since it's inception, has been known to do some daring and brave deeds, as well as a number of stupid and deadly ones. However, with the invasion of Iraq, they were presented with a challenge unlike any they had seen before. The President of the United States had invaded another country under the pretext of finding WMDs and nuclear materials. When it was finally realized that there were no WMDs, the President of the United States and his entourage of schemers, decided they had to find another rationale for the invasion.

At first, they tried to persuade an unthinking public that Saddam Hussein was connected to the al Qaeda which had planned the attacks upon our WTC and the Pentagon. After a time, that story broke down. As more and more attacks by Saddam loyalists and other Iraqi freedom fighters took place upon the Americans and American-trained security forces of the Iraqi puppets, the Administration blamed it on "al Qaeda" elements in Iraq. Surely it could not be Iraqis...

But for the al Qaeda to be a truly believable force in Iraq, they needed a leader. That is when al Zarqawi was born. Whether he was a real person or not, the CIA went about creating his image. He had a very identifiable face - mostly from the full lips with which he was portrayed. The CIA propaganda mission was to create an enemy from that image. They would show him all over the American press. Soon, there would be few people that did not know what Zarqawi looked like. But, did he really?

There was only one catch. They could not kill him. Because to kill him was to kill the al Qaeda threat that was the legitimate reason for fighting in Iraq. So he had to remain alive as long as he was useful. When the time was right, they would "kill" him. But did they really.

But when the election of 2006 was approaching, the time was ripe. They would attack a few insurgents and blow them to smithereens and proclaim that one of them was Zarqawi. With their new technology, they would have no problem making a total stranger look like Zarqawi - all they had to do was photo shop his lips. Everybody knew him. Could there be any doubt?


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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:08 PM
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1. Who moved this !?
Where is your judgement? :)
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:12 PM
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3. It's becoming a badge of honor to have your post move to the 9/11 forum...
You've hit a nerve.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 07:58 AM
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14. Welcome to the Penthouse. Excellent rant
Another reason was that there were some many lies and urban legends surrounding Zarqie that it was better to start fresh with a new guy and do it right this time and let Hollywood write the script.



P.S. Being moved to the Dungeon is like 100 recommendations
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:11 PM
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2. Reasonable theory, but
I don't think the CIA is on board at this time.

Just my $.02 ....
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:39 PM
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4. I wonder how much difference there is anymore
between what the CIA, the NSA, the Pentagon is up to. Seems like they are probably working together.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 11:04 PM
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8. That's what I think
with all the secrecy, it's like one big CIA. It seems they keep blaming things on intelligence agencies then replacing the leaders as though that will fix the problem, when it wasn't even their fault in the first place. (Like with the "bad intelligence" on Iraq WMD).
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:56 PM
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5. Odd move.......
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 09:57 PM by KoKo01
:eyes: I know that "upstairs" they don't want to hear anything about Zarqawi's death. He's "dead" and there shouldn't be questions unless they come from a verifiable Mainstream $$$$$'s source. But...9/11 Forum? Do they know something about Zarqawi that we don't.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 10:16 PM
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6. BTW...someone just posted that Nir Rosen (fellow at New America
Foundation) has some interesting thoughts about Zarqawi...and his "usefulness." There's a link to his blog and bio in the thread...Here's link to the post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1383714
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 10:58 PM
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7. This post reminds me of the Greg Palast piece
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 10:59 PM by mirandapriestly
that had 70 something recs yesterday. Zarqawi was invited basically by the Bush admin in response to their despicable actions. Nothing is what it looks like on the surface. Not that it is that hard to figure out.
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Americus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 06:42 PM
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9. What's the official explanation for why Mr. Z wasn't found in pieces?

How was he able to survive for as long as he did and only have a few red splotches on his face?
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:05 PM
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11. Well, at first the reports said he died in a house that was firebombed
then the next day it was tempered to; he survived and died later, probably cuz people noticed his face looked more like he'd been beaten. Now they are delaying the results of his autopsy, probably while someone from the Pentagon negotiates a payoff with the pathologist.:eyes:
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StealthyDragon Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 07:06 AM
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12. What's the official explanation for why Mr. Z wasn't found in pieces?
They used a couple of civilian friendly 500 lb bombs!




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Why can't people just step back and just look at the illusion? -- Lionel
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MervinFerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:33 PM
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10. Honestly, KY, its hard to fake whole stories.
They built this guy up, yes. That's easy.

But to make THAT credible there had to be REAL GIs tracking him, and a real villain to track.

They can't just fake the whole thing.

And, they should have killed him closer to the election.
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StealthyDragon Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 07:16 AM
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13. They can't just fake the whole thing.
Why not? Look at the Bin Laden faking they've been doing for years. I'm mean it's so obvious a child can see it.

They only need a few people to pull these things off.

(and a freezer)

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