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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 09:54 AM
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Even if you never believed or will ever believe, this is very curious.
http://iwilltryit.com/911summary.htm


I don't vouch for the site. But I found it interesting.

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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 09:57 AM
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1. I get a big white space with no content.... n/t
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:04 AM
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2. try to cut and paste the link into your browser. the link works for me.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:07 AM
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3. The video raises many questions that I wonder..................
.....if we will ever know the answer to.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:25 AM
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4. Another video on that site
Very powerful.

http://iwilltryit.com/prophecy1.htm

Brought me to tears.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:52 AM
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6. I got a blank page, hope...nt
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:58 AM
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7. Maybe try copying and pasting the link in your browser?
Someone else up-thread suggested this. For me, it works.

????
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:21 PM
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8. Or
if you can still play the link in the OP, then, click on "Prophecy" at the bottom of the page. This will bring you to the link I posted.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:39 PM
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9. Tears in my eyes, and I'm such a cynic
Those kids. and people try to stop the truth from getting out.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:41 PM
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10. Exactly
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 12:45 PM by Hope2006
That video IS what this fight for truth is all about.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:39 PM
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11. That WTC jumper appears to be the "Woman in the Hole" of WTC1
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 01:43 PM by petgoat
I've seen video (at some conference) of her waving from that spot.



I wanted to think that photo was faked and that she got out. Actually
I can't explain why she would have jumped. Can anybody?

That Barry McGuire soundtrack is a classic.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:16 PM
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12. I didn't notice that the first time I watched this
I don't know why whe would have jumped except if she thought there was no way out any other way. Fire would be the only explanation I can think of.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:33 AM
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16. How could the impact hole go from bearable to unbearable
with fire or heat? That's backward. I think she was standing there and that it was not fake because she shows up in a variety of still and taped images, tiny and close up. Sometimes waving, sometimes standing, her relatives said, yep, that would be her, that is what she'd do. There is also taped footage and testimony of people literally get blown out of buildings, obviously because of charges or explosions being set off. There was the construction worker whose buddy he watched get "blown out" the window and the footage of the guy waving the white shirt get popped.

Ya know, despite whoever caused this, the Port Authority and Giuliani are guilty of criminal negligence in the way there was no escape from those upper floors. What a fvcking hell of a way to die. In the '93 bombing, they rescued over a hundred from the roof in helicopters. But they were instructed not to and the doors were locked BY POLICY. Also, the Port Authority told them to stay out and not go downstairs. The reason I know this is because the head of security for Marsh McLennon (critical of the war, a former vet & critical of Port Authority, & like John O"Neill, died that day) Rescurlo, I think his name was. His wife recounted his reaction when he was told the P.A. was telling people to stay in their offices, he blew up and started swearing at them then went to get people down, then guess what? he died. I think he found out from home because his wife recounts this, why was he at home? Was he given the day off?
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:24 AM
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22. Edna Citron
She is wearing the same outfit, although I can't tell if her pants are long when she is jumping. She appears to have the same hair color, too.
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ForeverWinter Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:18 PM
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32. That video just killed me...
I've never felt so helpless. What can we do?
It occurs to me that there have always been brutality and inhumanity in the names of power and religion. But, technological advancement has made it too easy to bring suffering and destruction to so many.
What can we do?
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ForeverWinter Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:33 PM
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33. However...
Yeah, the whole "Jesus/prophecy/bible" angle skeeved me out, but there's no denying that this whole affair, 911 to Afghanistan to Iraq to (desperately hopeful not) Iran, is a true human tragedy.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:50 AM
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5. Floors 14-17 were unoccupied
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 11:53 AM by mirandapriestly
so preparation would not have been an issue. Except the "preparers" were probably also the tenants. Can you imagine if they put that video on network or cable news?
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 05:13 PM
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13. I wish they would put this video on network AND cable news
I know, I know, this wish belongs in fantasy land.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:53 PM
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15. Not sure if you saw these links I posted in another thread
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:56 AM
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20. Yes, many empty floors.
thanks, Hope.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 09:09 PM
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14. kick n/t
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:19 AM
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18. Hey guys, please...
checkout this video and tell me if you see something funny about it. It says it's 35 seconds but my player jumps from 19 seconds to the end like something is missing. Also does that at the beginning. Is it just me? Is this just a problem with my puter?
TIA!

http://iwilltryit.com/skullbones1.htm
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:05 AM
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21. I don't notice anything
with mine. It just has Bushler talking about how Skull N Bones is so secret he can't talk about it then Tim Russert asks him what will he do if he loses and Bushler says No I aint gonna lose...I've got a vision, then it switches to Bush looking through binoculars backwards and says yeah he really had a vision. Funny. They also have one where they ask Kerry about Skull n Bones and he says the same thing.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:26 AM
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23. ok, thanks miranda...
probably just this old computer, lol. The slider seemed to jump from 19 to the end. Oh well, :)
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:44 PM
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24. It's yer system
And Miranda has already told you what you missed but the binoculars aren't back wards, they just have the lens covers on them - Which I think, is even more moronic.



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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:49 PM
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25. The whole skull and bones thing.....
You know, it bothered the hell out of me that Kerry was a member of S&B. I still voted for him, but I don't jive with that secret bullshit society crap at all. Anybody can do some research on it - and you don't have to go to conspiracy sites either - 60 minutes did a whole special on it - It's disturbing and it pissed me off that both candidates were members.

http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?p=skull+and+bones%2B60&ei=UTF-8&b=1&oid=29001c4905540290&rurl=no.po.gs&vdone=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.yahoo.com%2Fvideo%2Fsearch%3Fp%3Dskull%2Band%2Bbones%252B60%26ei%3DUTF-8&vback=Results

sorry the link is enormous - it's the only 60 minutes link i could still find about the S&B - I had the whole thing, but that link is no longer working.

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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:58 PM
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27. It does fuel the idea of no real choice between candidates
OTOH, maybe it's just a silly college fraternity. It has a lot of high powered members, but that's because it is a very exclusive university. It sounds like Bushler spent his college years drinking, so I wonder if they would really trust him with that much "secret information".
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:52 PM
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29. You might be right....
silly college fraternity or not, If I were running for the office of the President I'd spill the whole beans. It makes me wonder why they haven't been spilt by a former bonesmen EVER before (to my knowledge). Why not level with the people you are supposed to be governing? It makes me ill, Miranda, Ill.

And so what if he drank all through his college life? He's pedigree and can be easily manipulated as a result (just a theory, but think about it).

Good post

:toast:


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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:33 PM
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31. Just the fact that he got into yale is sickening
It wasn't on merit that's for sure. Shortly after he left they changed the rules so that legacies did not get automatically admitted. Maybe because of him,hahaha
I did read that S&B has some sort of bond where they will do anything for one another in the future. there's some sort of fund or something, i don't remember the details, but it did feel like there was not a substantial choice with those two, although Kerry was a lot more palatable. He received poor advice in that election and I suspected that some of his advisors might be working against him. Like the "Reporting for Duty" was a terrible mistake. Nonetheless, I think the election was stolen. There's no way wewould be in this mess with Kerry or Gore. The corporations have got them both by the balls that's the problem with democrats and republicans.
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:54 AM
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17. I didn't get a blank page
but I did get a page with a WM player that didn't play. It was embedded in a frame. Direct filenames in frames for each vid mentioned are:

http://iwilltryit.com/media/911summary.wmv

http://iwilltryit.com/media/eve2.wmv

The main page is http://iwilltryit.com/menu.htm Getting to each embedded, framed vid might be a pain but from the two I've seen so far, they're worth the trouble.

/suppresses rant about HTML standards and compliance - not everyone uses IE, yaddayadda.

It's a good find, MassDemm. :thumbsup:

I take exception to the "Clinton's lies" comment in the first one. It made it sound like he was found guilty of many, when the truth is he wasn't found guilty by the Senate of lying under oath, neither he nor Hillary faced Whitewater indictments, etc. He did lie when he wagged his finger at the nation, true, and I am disappointed in him for that as well as the reason for it. Truth be told though, I'm more disappointed in him for getting NAFTA passed. It has a direct impact on the citizenry of more than one country, whereas adultery... Yech. Whatever. Let Hillary take care of that.

More to the point, the video did show just how little money or concerted attention has been spent in trying to get to the truth of what happened September 11th, especially in comparison to how much was spent hounding the Clintons for eight years, and the comparison is an important and telling one.

The second vid is devastating. The song is one I remember from when it was first released; it's an amazing choice for the soundtrack.

I wouldn't have connected the jumper to the woman standing in the impact hole if no one had mentioned it. In fact, I backed up and paused to identify the image because my brain refused to process it the first time around. In spite of other pictures I've seen, at first I didn't even recognize a person there where no person should be.

I had hoped and wished she'd gotten out too. :cry:

The other images chosen, especially of the children and the banner that said, "Iraqi children ask: what have we done?" break my heart. Was it WWI or WWII when ordinary citizens became the unspoken yet accidentally-on-purpose specifically targeted 'collateral damage' for bombs rather than 'just' seige?

The bugler standing in Arlington National Cemetery says it all.

:wordless sad headshake:
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StealthyDragon Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:38 AM
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19. The clip is from..............
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 01:39 AM by StealthyDragon
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:00 PM
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26. It has links to an "Audio Bible" and a "Prophesy Video."
that's enough to tell me that it's suspect.

Redstone
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:03 PM
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28. The video is from another source though
Maybe they are just compiling videos that make it look like the apocalypse is here or whatever. But the actually videos are not made by them.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:57 PM
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30. The "Prophecy Video" is a haunting video
that has "Eve of Destruction" as it's background music. Hence "Prophecy". It's the one I posted above.

http://iwilltryit.com/prophecy1.htm

Watch it...it is worth your while.
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