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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:42 PM
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The REBELLION has already begun!
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 02:43 PM by bvar22
Here is the text of Werbach's November 3 Theses:
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."
-- Benjamin Franklin

I.
The 2004 presidential election was lost not by John Kerry over the last several months but by the Democratic Party over the last several decades. Democrats have lost control of all three branches of government for the foreseeable future. We are now a minority party.

II.
When the Senate Democratic leader is defeated while spending $16 million attempting to get the majority of 500,000 votes, the problem is not a lack of funding or effort.

III.
The failure of the Democratic Party to connect with America's desire for fulfillment is political death.

IV.
Democrats are now history's spectators, Republicans its actors.

V.
The obsession with denouncing the radical conservative project as a "lie" has become a useful substitute for vision.

VI.
Renovating Democratic politics is not a question of moving to the right or talking more about religion. It is about creating a framework that once again communicates to the core needs of the American people.

VII.
America is not now, and never was, simply "the economy, stupid." What the American people want is a deeper sense of personal meaning, a national mission, and passion in times of fear.

VIII.
Returning the Democratic Party to majority status will require a political realignment no less sweeping than that which was accomplished by conservatives over the last 40 years.

IX.
Only the breath of a serious and new moral-intellectual vision will be sufficient to resuscitate the Democratic Party.

X.
Democratic candidates will continue to lose as long as they treat Americans as rational actors who vote their "self-interest" after weighing competing offers for health care, jobs, and security.

XI.
Conservatives have spent the last 40 years getting clear about the values they represent. They have even developed a "family values" brand to represent a framework that coheres traditional prejudices around prayer in school, gun rights, restricting abortion, and restricting gay rights.

XII.
By contrast, liberal or "progressive" groups and Democrats have spent the same period of time defining themselves against conservative values, even "morality" in general.

XIII.
If resources continue to flow to the same leaders who have failed to construct a new vision and have thus left the Democratic Party in ruins then we can expect more of the same. And worse. XIV.
Those who resist the process to create a new vision will be left behind.

XV.
Candidates who intend to win should no longer hire consultants who repeatedly lose. Those who counsel caution when dealing with the indifferent, the disaffected, and the undecided do not understand American history. Consultants who advise their clients against offering a clear and compelling vision in fear that it will be attacked should find themselves without a home in the Democratic Party. The sooner they retire, the better.

XVI.
Unconnected at a values level, the Democratic Party's laundry list of policy proposals is a confusing and alienating hodgepodge of special interests bound together by a vague sense that "we're all on the same side." Such a conflation demands no critical self-examination of the interest groups whose turf, and very identities, are treated as inviolable by Party chieftains.

XVII.
]The progressive vision must be a direct challenge to fundamentalism in all of its forms: political, religious and economic. It must match fundamentalism's power without replicating its authoritarianism. It must appeal to the values of liberty, equality, community, justice, unconditional love, shared prosperity, and ecological restoration, among many others.

XVIII.
Democrats serious about returning to majority status must:
· Retire any leader who believes that we are currently on a winning path that simply needs more money and effort.
· Define and articulate a coherent set of values of our base, and be willing to lose those allies who do not share these values.
· Fight battles, win or lose, that define and advance our values and expand our political base.
XIX.
In despair and defeat lie the seeds of triumph and victory. In that loss lies the opportunity to define a new progressive politics for the new century.

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/2004/11/002671.html



The Battle has begun.
The Revolution inside the Dem Party has already started. The Nov.3rd Theses has been posted on local party headquarters across the country. Progressive Democrats have withdrawn support from Elephants in Donkey Suits and are joining forces AGAINST those who would direct the Party further to the right.

"Progressive Democrats will neither wait nor be silent. We will organize locally as voices and voters for peace. We will hold our Congressional representatives accountable if they support a $75 billion blood-stained check for the Iraq war."

http://pdamerica.org/press/pr-2004-11-18.php


Progressive Democrats of America Statement on Iraq

# The invasion was illegal under both the UN Charter and the US Constitution.

# It was unprovoked, unwarranted, unjustified, and unnecessary.

# It is obscenely expensive at a time when non-military government programs are starved for resources.

# It is based on distortions and deceptions and falsehoods -- not by accident, but by design.

# That the costs incurred by the US are borne disproportionately by the poor and underprivileged.

# That it was not motivated by a quest for phantom Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, but by the Bush Administration's determination to control Iraqi oil, to provide vast opportunities for war profiteering by American corporations, and to build 14 new American military bases in Iraq which it intends to keep there for decades to come.

http://www.pdamerica.org/articles/news/pda_iraq_statement.php





Progressive Democrats of America have already held a Convention (Dennis Kucinich, Howard Dean) and are hosting a Progressive Democrats Summit on Jan 21st in DC. Yes, that is one day after the coronation of george bush*. We will form a political force (inside and outside the Dem Party) that will oppose the movement of this country toward a CorpoPolice State.


The DLC has been exposed as the tool of the rich Ceo's and Investor Class who wage WAR for profits! They have responded by using right wing tactics in sliming MMoore and calling us fringe looneys. The Corporate PR Teams have sent their propaganda agents across the net to try to mold opinion (They are here too(DU), but they won't be able to stop us. We already have too much momentum.

You are ALREADY witnessing a peasant rebellion, so get your pitchfork and torch and join us, or get out of the way!
Regional and local HQs have been established and are growing in number. Check the list to find yours.

http://pdamerica.org/caucuses.php






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catbert836 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:49 PM
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1. Exactly what I've been thinking since the election.
Thank you, bvar22.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:54 PM
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2. I agree completely with the November 3 Theses,
but the trick is in the implementation, the messengers, the ideas that grow out of these declarations.

That could be where people are in disagreement.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:03 PM
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3. Then come to the summit in DC.
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 03:06 PM by bvar22
Or better yet, join with the Progressive Democrats of America in your area. Your voice may be important to the revolution!

http://pdamerica.org/caucuses.php

Disclaimer: The Nov 3rd Theses was NOT produced or officially endorsed by the Progressive Democrats of America. To find out more about the Nov 3rd Theses, Go here:

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/2004/11/002671.htm...
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:14 PM
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5. Wish I could
but it's too expensive a trip from Honolulu.

And there are lots of good progressives out here.

Neil Abercrombie is my Rep.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:06 PM
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4. People have met to discuss all three!
I haven't seen a whole lot of disagreement so far. (Unless I'm reading your message wrong.)
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:21 PM
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7. No, you didn't read it wrong.
Good, I'm glad there's activity going on.

This year, I was more active than ever before, but I voted against Bush. I really want to be "For Something" rather than "Against Something."

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:27 PM
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11. Same here!
:hi: But I don't think that's going to be possible unless we do something positive in the Democratic party.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 04:48 PM
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17. Agree Completely!
EOM
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:30 PM
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13. If you are interested in opposing the CorpoGovernment,
and working on a grassroots level, check out:

Hawaii Progressive Caucus

Contact: Cecile Smith
Email: mceciles@earthlink.net
Phone: 808-395-6715


http://pdamerica.org/statecaucus.php?s=HI

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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 04:49 PM
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18. Thanks very much, bvr22!!!
I will look into it.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:21 PM
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8. Good stuff here.
One more thing needs to be said: what the party needs to do now is devote all its resources to taking back both the House and the Senate in 2006, and to identifying and electing a Speaker who is capable of being President.

Okasha
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:31 PM
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14. Absolutely! We do it from the bottom up!
Without that kind of strength, it won't matter who we nominate to run in 2008--we'll just lose again. The American people will lose.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:42 PM
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16. You're right, but
they'll never even reach that disagreement without a big slap in the face like the theses.

In fact, I would go so far as to say that fear of such a disagreement is a major reason that Democrats have avoided the kind of clarity called for in the post. This latest election shows that such silence has outlived its usefulness.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:16 PM
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6. if PDA becomes a force within the Democratic Party...
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 03:18 PM by mike_c
...I will be likely to return. Given the current stance of the DNC (and especially the DLC) the Green Party better represents my interests. I'll be watching this develop....

The major litmus test for me is the "war" in Iraq. When the Democratic Party condemns the invasion and occupation of Iraq-- unambiguously-- I'll believe that they're putting what's right before what's politic. The party's absolute refusal to permit any anti-war expression during the 2004 campaign will be a HUGE hurdle for them to overcome to get me back into the fold.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:27 PM
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10. We agree.
Supporting this coup within the party (PDA) is my Last Stand. The DLC and other monied interests will work with the Republicans to destroy this effort.

I'll give these guys a chance up to the mid term elections, and then decide whether it is worth the effort.

I posted this topic in response to ALL the POSTS that were crying out for somebody to do something!

Well, something is being done.
http://www.pdamerica.org/

BTW: Did you check out the PDA Statement on Iraq War from my original post?
http://www.pdamerica.org/articles/news/pda_iraq_stateme...
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:35 PM
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15. yes I did, and I applaud it, but UNTIL the DNC endorses it...
...it's just another liberal issue to throw off the party platform and ban from the convention. Forgive my cynicism, but I've been begging for a progressive Democratic Party since I first began voting in the early 70s. 2004 was the last straw. Next time I'll ask to see the goods before I buy.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:22 PM
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9. Funny, I was just about to post how we've been pawns in a battle...
among the elites - over who gets to be the ruling class. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm beginning to feel that the best way to fix this is to take back the Democratic party and let the "centrists" from both sides of the aisle be the ones to form a third party.
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NurseLefty Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:28 PM
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12. This rebellion NEEDS to happen.
Since 1984, I have been a consistantly voting, slightly left-moderate Dem. A loyal-to-my death Dem.
In recent times, I thought that Kucinich & Green Party followers weren't thinking constructively in terms of winning. I used to think that we need to market ourselves towards the center to get votes. But, now we've seen the middle-of-the-road strategy blown to bits.
An anger has risen out of me towards the centrist leadership of the DNC. They got my support; they betrayed me with their lack of leadership. This is SO VERY evident now - where are our leaders?? They've cut and run! Who remains? The stragglers of the DLC proclaiming that we need to move to the right??
Before the Democrats move anywhere, we need to hash out who we are and what we stand for. The centrist Dems need to acknowledge the grass roots who turned out for this election, not just the big money fat cats who send checks. Otherwise, a whole segment of the Left will turn its back on the Dems.
If there ever was a case to form a third party it is now. Six months ago, I would have never envisioned I would think this. I just hope that what leadership emerges within the Democratic Party recognizes this possibility before it's too late.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 04:54 PM
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19. compelling. nt
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