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hangloose Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:41 PM
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Bush Biographers--All Suicided
Four Bush biographers, Mark Lombardi, J.H. Hatfield, Danny Casalaro, and now Gary Webb--all "suicide" victims. What are the odds all of these people actually committing suicide?

Examining the male U.S.suicide rate for recent years
(http://www.suicidology.org/stats2001/1999datapage2.pdf), we can
extrapolate a conservative estimate of 17 male suicides per 100,000 people, or 0.017%. The odds of 4 specific, male biographers committing suicide would be the 4th power of 17/100000, or 8.3521 4.913 x 10^-17...roughly 1 chance 10,000,000,000,000,000. About as good a definition of impossible as you can get. A person would stand a better chance of playing the Canadian lottery 6/49 exactly twice in one's lifetime and winning ther grand jackpot BOTH TIMES! (That is, picking 6 numbers out of 49 possible numbers and matching all 6 numbers out of 6 random draws, on 2 separate occasions, and having only purchased two Canadian lottery tickets ever.) This calculation should be regarded as a conservative estimate: the actual odds against such a "coincidence" would be much greater. For example, if any of the biographers were female, the odds would be even greater.


http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/12/1709370_comment.php#1709433
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:42 PM
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1. I don't know...
if I had to study the man, I may be tempted to give it up too...
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:43 PM
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2. Our chickenshit media won't question it.
Now if they were biographers of Clinton, you'll get a different outcome.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:43 PM
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3. Memo to self: Do not write * biography. This is chilling!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:44 PM
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4. Jeebus!
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:46 PM
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5. Zero, if Kitty Kelley goes to the great beyond. Her
book -- which I'm listening to on audio -- is fantastic. I highly recommend people downloading it from iTunes and listen to it while they blog. It called "The Family"
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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:49 PM
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6. Li,e all fascists, they play for keeps
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:00 PM
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7. Quite the odds, Scary!!!
Maybe that is what he expects all of us dissenters to do as well!
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:36 PM
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8. You can't pick them after the fact. Statistics wrong.
You can't pick them based on the outcome -- you did not pick them randomly. Pick a set of RANDOM people of 100,000 BEFORE you know the outcome and if all of them are suicided, your stats would be right -- but you didn't choose these randomly, you chose them based on the outcome.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:49 PM
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9. Also, association is not causation
It's fair to say that there appears to be a high correlation between critical biographies of dubya and suicides.

However, that doesn't mean that the biographies are a direct cause of the suicides. It could be that suicidal people are drawn to writing biographies of shrubby.

If Kitty Kelley dies mysteriously than I WILL sit up and take notice! Meanwhile, all these "suicides" should be investigated thoroughly, I agree. It's just too soon to draw conclusions.

I agree that Kelley's book is very good!
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