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lancdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:27 PM Original message |
This Social Security thing has me pissed off royally |
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Cary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. You are not alone, lancdem |
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lancdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Thanks for your support |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. If we can invest in gold or Euros, I'm for it |
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lancdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Social Security is one of the two best anti-poverty programs |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. old people voted for him |
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lancdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I know |
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MsUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. You would think with the fiasco of Medicare they would have guessed |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 10:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. No, he didn't "campaign"on it. He's lying when he says that. |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
38. Bush lie? Our honest president lie? |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
61. Didn't Kerry accuse the Evil Chimp of wanting to privatize SS? |
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 04:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. I don't think Faux News ever covered that. n/t |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:03 AM Response to Reply #6 |
36. Yes, they did. According to my county email group, they believe |
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n2mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 06:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Depending on who you consider old |
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watercolors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 05:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
32. I didn't vote for him |
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dissenting crone (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Not all of us. |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
58. This "old people" did not |
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Chef (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
7. Bring it on |
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Cary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. The Social Security thing is more of the same, Chef. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:34 AM Response to Reply #7 |
45. Unfortunately, the media is directly linked to the propaganda machine. |
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Dem2theMax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
9. Does anyone have a FACTUAL article on what * is going to do |
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joanski01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Bush* ain't telling. |
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j-t (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Here ya go |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:45 AM Response to Reply #15 |
48. Cato--nothing more need be said. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:50 AM Response to Reply #15 |
49. All you need to do is read the introductory page, and count |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
47. They are being incredibly stealthy, but WaPo had a good article |
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Dem2theMax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
59. Thank you everyone for the information. |
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joanski01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. Remember when Newt Gingrich said |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. This set of lies is every bit as outrageous as the Iraq War lies |
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diplomats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 09:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. This is another retired person who DID NOT vote for * |
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bobedwards (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
19. Privatizing? |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 12:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. what? |
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bobedwards (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 12:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Clarification.... |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
37. Lately, I have been wondering how the new widows and dependent |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I assume you mean dependents of soldiers in Iraq? |
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nickshepDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
22. Can someone explain to me in very simplistic terms why this is bad? |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 01:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. the premise back in the 30's |
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nickshepDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 01:40 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Thanx that actually helped me alot. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:58 AM Response to Reply #24 |
50. First, don't expect us to do all your legwork. |
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nickshepDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. First, I didnt ask YOU to do anything for ME. |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. I believe |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
62. I believe one of the ways |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
44. A few corrections. The government was not going to "look after our money" |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. Then why does the |
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Princess Turandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 04:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Another question which needs to be answered is what happens.. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:36 AM Response to Reply #30 |
46. It all depends on how its done. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
54. You will have to wait until you are 67 before you can retire for SS |
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Nordic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
25. doesn't anybody realize what this is actually about??? |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 01:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. the fund is already being looted, and has been for years. |
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Nordic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 02:18 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. have you more details regarding that? |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 02:41 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Its been happening since 1983. |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 06:14 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Bob Somerby has been doing some landmark work on the subject |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 06:44 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Paying off bonds isn't unusual, but to do it on the scale necessary |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 06:53 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. No, no, no! |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:11 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Social Securities problems go far past the Baby Boomer bump |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:13 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. regardless of the rhetoric ... |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:16 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Bold Democratic Leadership : "Let your kids deal with it" |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 07:20 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. While you were responding ... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 08:07 AM Response to Reply #40 |
52. You are correct. Read the Cato Institute link elsewhere in the thread |
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sunnystarr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
57. I'm sure my idea has flaws that I don't see as yet .... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 08:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
51. Ken Lay will have more access to SS funds than the people earning them. |
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Nordic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Grubman. Remember that guy (aptly named "Grub"-man?) |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
64. Fleecing The Sheep |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
27. As usual, they're trying to scare people |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
53. people who voted for Bush make me sick |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-04 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
60. The Transition Costs for Privatizing SS are going to kill the Economy |
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