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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:14 PM Original message |
If the Democratic Party goes Right(More Center) what will you |
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purduejake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. Nothing... I already left. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
51. Okay, If You LEFT.... then |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Once again, I must point out someone's error. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I think you highlited the wrong part |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Yes, some here would like to forget that much. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. Hmm...once you edit it, my reply changes context. |
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Pushed To The Left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:42 AM Response to Reply #60 |
87. Yes!!!! |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. So What Are You??? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Um, please try reading the thread again. I never said I left. |
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purduejake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
98. Green. |
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Moderator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:48 PM Response to Reply #51 |
65. Please read |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 09:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Thank You |
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purduejake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
104. Don't worry about it. |
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purduejake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:13 PM Response to Reply #51 |
99. I'll stay, thank you. |
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bobweaver (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. If the Dems move right, I will vote for a third party such as the Greens |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. But a third party will have NO chance. This is why I am conflicted. |
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purduejake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Neither will Dems who don't stand up to cheating. |
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miss_kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. well the dems on this particular highway to hell |
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bobweaver (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 06:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
48. The Dems loss in 2000 made them move left to recapture the left vote in |
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mandyky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 09:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
72. I think an Independent or 3rd Party candidate does have a chance |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:57 PM Response to Reply #72 |
103. I agree. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. Depends on the issue. Depends on whether you think X position is left or |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. What do you mean X position? |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Whether you believe a specific position on a specific topic is leftward or |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Pro Choice and Gay rights will NEVER be a right position. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Then change some minds |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Funny how the repukes don't compromise, pick a |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. did you read the post |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I didn't say compromise |
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Pushed To The Left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
88. Exactly! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
58. Doesn't matter if they think differently. This is about individual rights. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. Lately it appears that wouldn't be a problem. |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. they are too far right for me already |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I second that ... Every time Liberman gets up to talk |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 06:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
47. It's okay to be a democrat and not be able to stand Lieberman |
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politicaholic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'll go with, but the signs I bring to rallys won't be what they want... |
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jackster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
11. I may leave.... |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
13. Couldn't support it any longer, but may vote Dem with my nose pinched.... |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
16. Saracat, have you seen this speech by Warner? I don't know much |
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Elise (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Talk is cheap |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 06:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. Maybe there should be a Socialist Underground. It seems like people |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. I Can Agree With You Here |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. I'm not going anywhere and I'm not threatening too. I'm a Democrat and |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. "...is if they compromise on women's rights..." |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. "Is there a term for people who think Democrats are too far to the right?" |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
67. No I WAS Agreeing WITH You.... |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 09:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I see what you mean now. It seems like some people want an umbrella |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Warner is known as weak to moderate on abortion. |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. those measures |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. What were the measures? |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 06:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. I believe |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Was there a bypass for abuse or other reasons? |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I couldn't say |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. Well, then geez. What is the problem? This is where we start to lose |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
61. "Now I support our troops and their efforts to change the regime in Iraq." |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. I believe the speech was back in 2003. I was against the Iraq War too. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
17. There are many issues that divide voters. The only way for Democrats |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
74. Compromise is fine, to an extent, but... |
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keith the dem (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
20. Please look at our system of government |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
21. Warner is a great Democrat |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. To some. He is a centrist. I won't vote for one. He is a moderate on |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. he doesn't pander to the right |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. With that attitude you will have the opposite effect of what you appear to |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. No moderate Democrats on abortion sounds like a good way to get more |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
76. "...some limits on late term abortions..." |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. The laws vary in each state. I'm not advocating any changes. I'm |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #84 |
100. Agreed! |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
27. We'd have to go LEFT to be more center. N/T |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
77. THANK you. |
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Misskittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
28. We take the party back. eom |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
33. You're basic premise is wrong. We are already right of center. |
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cyn2 (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
34. I'll go back to being an Independent n/t |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
35. It's already far enough right for me to register Green. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
36. I don't know. |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
37. A move to the center... |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
38. still vote for them in elections because they are the only |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. You are in the same quandry as me. I am working as hard as possible to |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. it is hard. |
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NurseLefty (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
40. If principles are deserted, then what? |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
41. Democrats -stand up to election fraud in congress on Jan 6th or I go Green |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
78. Excellent post. A promise I made to myself as well. |
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snippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
45. I will continue to support and vote for most democratic candidates. |
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Pushed To The Left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:16 AM Response to Reply #45 |
90. Amen!! |
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Moderate Dem (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
52. If the Democratic Party goes Right(More Center) I will... |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Ah! Yes. Like we have been winning as moderates currently! |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 09:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. I want to say this |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:23 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Hard to run on economic populism when your candidate supported NAFTA. |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. still possible |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Possible, sure. Still harder than someone who doesn't support NAFTA. |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. what was worse |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:44 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I agree, provided he had kept in worker protections. |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:54 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. the truth is |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #85 |
101. I completely agree with your post. |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:26 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. great |
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Pushed To The Left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:25 AM Response to Reply #70 |
91. That might be a good strategy |
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Pushed To The Left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:25 AM Response to Reply #70 |
92. That might be a good strategy |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:33 AM Response to Reply #52 |
86. Ah, but Kerry DID THAT, and we LOST. |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
55. thta's not even an issue right now ... |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:07 AM Response to Original message |
89. Just remember,to find the "Center" |
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nascarblue (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
93. If no seanator stands up, I'm out |
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moggie12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
94. Center is better than Right-wing |
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The Zanti Regent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
95. I will work for secession. |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
96. I Will Leave This Fascist Country |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
97. Leave |
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Piperay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
105. Still vote Democratic |
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