How come BUSH the LIAR doesn't mention the UK's social security DISASTER?

Oh that's right...because BUSH is a LYING POS.

Conservatives rarely point to Britain's partial state pension privatization program, because it's been a total disaster.

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=8997

STOP LYING TO AMERICA, bush.

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....130,000,000 people's disaster is 453 rich fat cats' gain!

"Bush the Liar" rolls off the tongue...nice, like these words were always meant to be together...

Quite practical as well, since they have been together for a long time...

Friedman quote is at the end here.

milton friedman, econ guru to the RW, craftd the Chile disaster, i think i recall.

Anyone have the good bottom line stats to sum up the Chile disaster?

not partial stats, but good overall ones.

ps milton said "gov should only do army, courts and treasury"
I think we all must tell folks that such is the REAL RW goal... zero welfare, zero college aid, and zero pension ss.. etc for every dem program.

ZERO.

Like ..um, Haiti? anyone know for sure how Haiti is set up?

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It IS a strong argument; privatization is a CRAP SHOOT.

Our SS is NOT in a "crisis".

As ALWAYS, bush is LYING to America.

It's that simple.

it's all smoke and mirrors. The main objective of tamperin with SS is for the Greedy Old Pig party to reward its biggest thieving fans - the financial sector. They don't give a flying f*** about how it affects WE THE PEOPLE.

As bush said; "You're my base; the HAVES and the HAVE-MORES."

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We're not as "naieve" as you think we are.

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BUSH IS LYING HIS ASS OFF.

Period.

republicans are thieving, lying bastards and that ain't no stereotype

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Uh huh.

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don't EVEN compare that piece of SHIT republican to ANY OTHER *REAL* PRESIDENT

Yes, we dems need to stop being so angry. Yes, those RW talk radio hosts are NEVER angry. Yes, we should have run polite ads like those sweet Swift Boat veterans.

"Blind rage"? Give me a break.

THANK YOU, MODS!!!!!

That one REALLY got up my nose, lol!

BTW, what does "naieve" mean?

young or non "worldly". Also used to mean one who is too trusting of evil people.. and the slur slinger usu sees all people as evil, untrustworthy"

both LW and RW use the term... tho i think the RW uses it a bit more than we do.

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"naieve" is not in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary, the American Heritage Dictionary, or Merriam-Webster.

he has said it more than once; stop believing FAHRENHYPE 911 GARBAGE

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pay $2000 buck and you will hear it too. I work with conservatives who have been at those fundraisers and it's a standard line.

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apologizing for bush.

Let the rightwingnuts apologize for that piece of shit; he's THEIR fault, not ours.

1. the Thirties saw market-based pensions fail. That was the exact reason for our current non-market ss plan. In the early thirties, 225 people outright starved to death in NYC. Hospital records. Who knows how many tens of thousands starved nationwide? Very hard to get these facts, by the way.

2. Britain's ss disaster

3. Chile's ss disaster

4. Argentina's ss disaster

5. Even the now one/fifth RW Sweden had a ss disaster. {the RW lied their way into some power there, just like here}

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i suppose they get money from general revenue as needed.

Much fairer, it seems to me.

Never any "low ss Fund " crisis or made up crisis.

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did u know that folks here who have been unable to earn "quarters" get no ss at all? I hope there is something for them, but i just dont know of any plan.

Anothere reason for NONCONTRIBUTORY ss.

wondering what others think.

Mention it a lot.

And it ain't going great for Sweden either.

Chile? Disaster.

Argentina? Disaster.

Britain? Disaster.

Even the incredibly clueless rightwingnuts should be able to figure out that gee maybe "privatization" tends to be a DISASTER.

there is no crisis.

1O5 Trillion is plenty to cover ss.
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Switch thinking now to the 1O Trillion GDP...

Truman's top tax rate of ninety percent.. triple the current pathetic 35%... would add 2. 7 Trillion to revenue.

enough for a new total of 108,000/yr for the average retired couple. Double what they were earning before retirement.

There is no crisis.

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now, back for a moment to Wealth:

http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/current/accessible/l5.htm

see bottom line for US wealth

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OK, now back to the Truman Plan, using his tax rates on the GDP...
enough for every dem program and more.

300 billion to end all poverty
30 billion to double NIH, cutting in half the time to find every new cure
12 b. to end hunger
4 b to end all homelessness

346 b. total.. so 2. 2 Trillion left over for pothole repair, more firefighters, cops, school repair, water main repair, bridge repair, etc. Everything the repubs destroyed during their reign of taxcut madness. Without even touching our US wealth. Just from the GDP each year.

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