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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:26 PM
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Rosenberg's blog plan.
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 03:27 PM by crispini
I thought this one merited its own thread:

The Blog Plan
As DNC Chair, I'd like to take the DNC and make it a full part of the blogosphere. The principle behind what I offer here is to foment a continual and robust online discussion that the DNC actually is part of and that reinforces an overall Democratic political strategy. To that end, I submit that the DNC needs:

1. Regular conference calls, conferences, and a blog committee of 'netroots' representatives to advise various DNC departments on strategy, research, messaging and outreach.

2. A consistent non-election year blogad budget dedicated to framing and testing messaging, as well as potential seed money for specialty blogs.

3. An internal champion in the DNC to break news on blogs and connect elected Democrats and high level staffers with blogs, bloggers, and effective use of the internet with the goal of having the blogosphere surpass cable news networks in reach and influence.

more:

http://blog.simonforchair.org/blog/archives/2005/01/the_blog_plan.html

Good stuff IMO...
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rabid_nerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:54 PM
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1. founded the NDN with Lieberman...
...he's pandering...

blogging about giving money to bloggers...
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:56 PM
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2. Oh, There's Nothing Like Labels. He's Pandering Cause RabidNerd
sez so.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:02 PM
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3. LOL, cryingshame. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:05 PM
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rabid_nerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:06 PM
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5. nvm
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 04:11 PM by rabid_nerd
I wasn't sure who you were directing at...

I was going to say I'm not paid... Or authed to represent an org officially..

Then I realized you had my back, lol
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:20 PM
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7. If you would like to say that I am a paid staffer of some organization,
please, come right out and say so, rather than merely implying it.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:38 PM
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11. You Mean RabidNerd Should Identify Theirself As Dean's Staff?
since he's casting aspersions and all?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:40 PM
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12. RabidNerd is not Dean staff
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:09 PM
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6. Simon seems to have some good ideas
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 04:10 PM by DoYouEverWonder
but I can not support anyone who continues to support Bush's war on terror and/or the the invasion and brutalization of Iraq.

If and when Simon changes his mind regarding these issues, then I might be willing to reconsider him.

In the meantime, I'm ready for some new blood and a new direction and so far Dean is the best option for both those goals.

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:23 PM
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9. Thank you for your thoughtful post.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:22 PM
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8. It's a good idea, but
I'm sure Howard Dean, the candidate who really has used the blog community like no other, has similar ideas and frankly, I prefer Dean as DNC Chair.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:42 PM
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19. Right. In fact, seems to me Dean's been there, done that and
and Rosenberg is just picking up on and trying to repackage a great, already proven idea. Of course, Dean didn't do it for the DNC, but he did it for a Presidential campaign and went a step further, which ole Simon doesn't mention a thing about (at least not in the quoted portion):

Dean and Trippi not only allowed but GAVE power back to the people out in the sticks, without requiring central control. He points out that that's scary, but it's very effective to empower people that way. "The more power you give away, the more power you really have," is how he puts it, usually with a little blush about being "Zen-like" in his philosophy.

Another of Dean's ideas involves getting money out to the parties -- funding a core staff in EACH of the 50 states from the DNC, to ensure that we have a good structure in each state.

And, of course, he wants us to "Show Up" -- run people in each state, each race, something I wholeheartedly agree with.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:33 PM
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10. Thoroughly confused, but supportive
After reading the above posts, I'm thoroughly confused about who is or isn't working for what person or organization. However, as a normally befuddled DUer, the blogging idea sounds good. Regardless of who wins the DNC chairmanship, I hope they do something like this. Grassroots input can do nothing but make the Party stronger.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:42 PM
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14. to me it sounds like he thinks he can control the debate
through blogging. That is exactly opposite of what the blog world does.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:47 PM
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16. Does Rosenberg wants to create a blog-to-MSM synergy?
not unlike what the GOP media machine does.

Drudge --> O'Reilly, Limbaugh ---> Fox News ----> cable networks ---> MSM

That's a model of what the Democratic Party needs in order to reframe the debate.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:44 PM
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20. I hope not -- I hope that's not the main thrust because Cheswick
is 100% right. If it's not a 2-way communication, it won't work and will, in fact, serve to further alienate the base, and IMO the base is plenty alienated enough already. Don't NEED more disillusionment and disappointment. Nuh-huh.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:52 PM
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22. I think in terms of political aikdo, that's one way blogs can function to
help get out the truth about liberal views and progressive candidates.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:18 PM
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18. I don't get that at all, from reading the post.
The impression that I get is that he would be trying to bring the DNC into the blog world. That's a good thing, IMO.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:43 PM
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15. Dean already does this...is Simon Rosenberg trying to be Dean-lite?
I still think that Dean should be elected DNC Chairman and Simon can buildup the Operations end.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:16 PM
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17. I tend to agree with you about Dean and Simon, but
I don't entirely agree that Dean already does this. Some of it, yes, but some of it's above and beyond what Dean does, IMO. In my experience, DFA pretty much stays on their own blog... this is above and beyond, IMO.... it's pretty tasty stuff.

"A New Politics Think Tank inside the DNC that fosters the sharing of best practices among those involved in netroots politics so as to allow for a supported network of savvy operatives to permeate progressive organizing. This organ would also investigate new technologies like RSS, wikis, podcasting, and their applicability to organizing at every level."

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:49 PM
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21. That's an apt description of what Dean's organization did
UNofficially. Rosenberg proposes making it official. :shrug: Big deal.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:42 PM
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13. In Other Words He Would Copy Dean...Just 1.5 Years Late.
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 04:43 PM by David Zephyr
Glad to hear he's at least thinking like Dean...even if he's 1 1/2 years behind the curve.

Dean for Chair.
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