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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:36 PM
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Nightline doing a story on God hates Fags.com
ABC
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:37 PM
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1. Good, Cuz David Letterman Has Guliani On
so Nightline it is.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:47 PM
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5. actually, I would not be surprised were that a media
contrivance.
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Stepup2 Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 01:06 AM
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26. It is scary...
Edited on Thu Jan-13-05 01:07 AM by Stepup2
to be public enemy number one. I pull my shades at night and sometimes I realize I am doing it out of fear. This hatred is pathological and is condoned by the RW and many religious tacitly by the mealy mouthed way they speak to the issues.

I saw a HUGE church sign today that welcomed all to attend their conference on the sanctity of life and love....

the sanctity of love part is new in the lexicon imo....keep your eyes peeled for it at a church near you...it will then creep into the vocabulary as code for those satan worshiping homos that are subhuman.

Canada anyone? :puke:
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FREEDOMRULES3 Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:41 PM
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2. omg
man these people are over the top. and it hasn't been on for 5 minutes yet. and they (the people in this church) actually think they are going to the promised land. what the fuc* has this country come to.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:43 PM
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3. oy...
these people are so fucking backwards
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:46 PM
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4. God this is so sad
and people have no idea that gay teenagers leading cause of death is suicide.

I am not gay, nor is anyone in my family (that I know off anyway) but this is a huge issue for me. It hurts that we are still so ignorant in this country.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:48 PM
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6. nightline yesterday
did a show on charity or giving . mostly focused on the tsunami effort. but the show was about why people who give some causes and not others. it was really interesting.

i live on the west coat but will check out today's show also.

i don't care for those late night comedy shows much. i wish nightline would expand to an hour. they are one of the few news shows still worth watching.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:53 PM
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8. It is being cancelled soon.So much for good programming.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:57 PM
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13. i hadn't heard that
are you sure ?
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:52 PM
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7. ugh
I just had 2 days of trying to argue with a winger who is anti-gay, but claims that he doesn't have anything against gays as long as they are not "active" and that it is the same as pedophilia. After about 11 pages of trying to convince him, he kept falling back on the "they are immoral and gross!!" defense, then turned it into the bestiality/pedophilia/etc "comparison."

Look if you cannot tell the difference between an adult who can make their own decisions and a child and a non-human animal then you have way too many issues for me to be able to comprehend.

Then to not understand the level of violence and ridicule that happens from people who find homosexuality to be a deviation against God's will.....

Oy....

<banging head on desk>
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 01:10 AM
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27. here....


feel better?
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:53 PM
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9. I am watching it now---they are so filled with hate it leaves me
speechless.

What in the name of God is the matter with these folks?

The God I know hates no one.

Sickening!
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:56 PM
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12. I just read an interview with George Clooney...
in Esquire magazine and basically he said about these gay bashing types...and I'm paraphrasing..."In 40 years we will look back at this time and liken the gay bashers to the people who stood on the steps of the school house with George Wallace" He's right, history will shame these people one day...not soon enough unfortunately
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:02 AM
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14.  This is just unbelievable to me----I'm sure you're right though.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:09 AM
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15. You are so right, Rev. I tell my hubby that in one hundred years
even his fundagelical church will be open to gay marriage. That makes him livid, but I could be right.

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Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/
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Fire Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:43 AM
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29. I doubt that only because
One thing you have to consider though is that his "church" is ver small and doesn't extend far beyond his (Barely branching) family tree. This guy is a joke.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:55 PM
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10. that poor boy.
I am used to nobody taking phelps seriously but I forget there are those in small towns who would be really bothered by something like this. It's hard enough to come out to your family in that environment let alone have Phelps and company show up in your tiny town with nasty flyers about you to picket your church. sickening. :(
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FREEDOMRULES3 Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:55 PM
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11. getting hard to watch
i'm not gay , been married 23 years now, but i have an open mind at least. to each their own i say. anyway how can these freaks call themselves christians. they are sooo full of hate it is pathetic. this really makes me sad :( so called christians spewing hate. once it was the jews , now it must be the gays.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:22 AM
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19. Actually, Phelps isn't a fan of Jews either
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:18 AM
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16. GOOD...this should make REASONABLE people ask why
hatred is being used for political purposes when it is a dangerous tool to manipulate with
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:21 AM
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17. I hate seeing young kids put through such crap.
Edited on Thu Jan-13-05 12:21 AM by jonnyblitz
even though his church and family were supportive, they still really weren't, only because they resented outsiders coming in. "He was THEIR sinner." :eyes:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:22 AM
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18. I'm out west so it isn't on yet....I'll be watching in a couple hours
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:24 AM
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21. oh crap i knew that...
ooops. :hi:
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:27 AM
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22. hopefull that will lead to the next step
I think liberal Christians have to find a way to educate people that there is another way to read the bible. People are not going to give up religion. But they can be educated to better ways of interpreting the bible. If I knew where to start I would take the job on.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:30 AM
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23. you are right.
I should be glad they took that step and not expect mountains to be moved in a day.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:23 AM
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20. Meanwhile...in a parallel universe...
Elshiva appeared on the Daily Show endorsing her new campaign, "God dates Fags.com." She unveiled her new promotional poster on the Show which features Michaelangelo's Adam French Kissing God the Father. The Pope laughs and sends her approval.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:49 AM
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24. Good.
When normal Americans see these freaks, they're likely to distance themselves from such sociopathic behavior. Hence in the back of their minds their questioning the legitimacy of any homophobia they might have.
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juslikagrzly Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 01:06 AM
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25. I live in Oklahoma
about 70 miles west of Tulsa. Actually grew up in Tulsa. This whole story made a splash when the Post story hit. There was quite a large counter-demonstration outside the high school and I suppose we should be grateful for that.

My Rev. hubby and I were just waiting for the "love the sinner, hate the sin" lines and we weren't disappointed.

It all boils down to their impoverished interpretation of theology and the bible. I doubt this can be changed much. As my Rev. hubby says, most people are sheep. Why else are congregations called "flocks"?

Good Christ, who would you choose to live a life of discrimination and vitriolic hatred thrown your way. But the fundies just won't accept that being gay is biological and not a choice. I think it's because they believe we are made in god's image, and if god made gay people......LOL......god just might be gay. Wouldn't that just blow their feeble little minds when they "get to heaven".

Sending good vibes to Michael Shackelford! Courageous young man.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 01:21 AM
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28. good post!
:thumbsup:
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