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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:14 PM
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"there can be no human rights without human liberty"
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 01:17 PM by norml
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/01/20050120-1.html "there can be no human rights without human liberty"


What the Hell does he mean by that? Does that mean that their twisted version of "liberty" (Waging wars of aggression, and committing crimes against humanity.) is more important than human rights?


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jdonaldball Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:15 PM
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1. there can be no rights without responsibility
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:18 PM
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2. It's backwards.
You can't have liberty without first acknowledging and defending human rights. just mho
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:22 PM
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3. what do you expect from a third grade intellect?
Human rights? don't those start right here at home in our policies?

You can't have acceptable torture without a Republican administration. Now that has the ring of truth to it.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:25 PM
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4. exactly
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Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:27 PM
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5. Think like a Fundie!
Human Liberty= Salvation of Jeebus, saved from sin.
Human rights in the fundie mind are not possible
without the salvation of Jeebus.
All the heathens must be saved or they
will continue to violate human rights because
they are in the bondage of sin- liberty in this
speech is an evangelical threat not unlike the
crusades-
In my mind, the man just declared a crusade
on the entire planet.
BHN
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:43 PM
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7. I just finished reading his speech.
Who the hell is the "Author of Liberty"?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:46 PM
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8. Why GAWD, of course...
Git it?
Bomb them with bibles!
Freedumb for all!
BHN
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:29 PM
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6. Think like a crisco coated fundie
Human Liberty= Salvation of Jeebus, saved from sin.
Human rights in the fundie mind are not possible
without the salvation of Jeebus.
All the heathens must be saved or they
will continue to violate human rights because
they are in the bondage of sin- liberty in this
speech is an evangelical threat not unlike the
crusades-
In my mind, the man just declared a crusade
on the entire planet.
BHN
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 10:36 PM
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9. "You can't have liberty without first acknowledging and defending
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 10:38 PM by norml
human rights." I like your answer to Dubya's B.S. I'd like to hear someone use it in a counter speech. This was in answer to post two, but I put it in the wrong place.
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