Dean and Clark supporters who *like* both men check in!

I can't believe that some supporters of each are still fighting the primaries! I'll go first:

I like Howard Dean and Wesley Clark; both are fine gentlemen and good Democrats.

See, that wasn't hard at all. Your turn.

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wholeheartedly.

:cry:

Clark/Dean! :evilgrin:

J/K! :hi:

:)

Military guys should not be president, might send the wrong message to the rest of the world (LMAO at my own joke).

But Clark would diffuse any criticism of the ticket not having enough military experience/expertise in these days of TERRA.

Never Really Happy With Kerry

Gotta run to the dinner table now, may check back in later.

:hi:

I am a supporter of Dean for DNC Chair and I hope that Clark will run in 2008. This time Clark needs to jump in early, like right after the midterms in 2006: set up fundraising committees, precinct captains in Iowa and New Hampshire, decline federal matching funds.

and, according to Time, Clark is already running.

Among the earliest to start dialing for donors: Wesley Clark, who entered the '04 race just a few months before the first primary but quickly stumbled with a flip-flop on how he would have voted on Congress's Iraq-war resolution. Now he is telling potential supporters, according to one he called, that he "learned from his mistakes, he knows it takes more time and preparation than he put in--and that his wife is fully on board," which wasn't true the first go-round.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1022607,00.html

I believe Clark would win in 2008. It's hard for me to imagine anyone with 'tougher' credentials being nominated by the republicans. However, Clark has something they all lack: democratic beliefs and a heart.

Dean and Clark included.

but I like them both and don't understand the flames.

Look here they are together. Looks like there having fun!?

I admire and like both of them.

them, then by fighting against each other when our goals are so much more the same than different.
To fight each other would be to help the Repukes attain their goal: Divide and Conquer.

;)

was a happy time, wasn't it?

I had been to see the good Dr. at a rally in Hermann Park and then went to the reception in the Warwick hotel after, and wrote him a $100.00 check.

But my heart was still with the General, who was getting more of my money and my efforts at Meetups (I was writing letters to New Hampshirites).

and support Dean for DNC chair. These are two of the best minds in the Democratic Party.

There was some Dean-Kerry bashing earlier so mine was a broader challenge:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1547159

But this is great too, so I'll say the General is a hero I will support 100% for anything, and I respect and admire Dean's talents and contributions to the party too. :hi:

something about how clark does'nt seem to blink that feels like the stepford wives, but i thought a Dean/Clark ticket would have gotten it done..........


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I was a Dean supporter for the primary. I have to admit that I didn't get Clark a second thought at the time, because I wasn't going to support somebody that seemed to come out of nowhere, politically speaking, to be the Democratic nominee for President.

But, since the primary, Clark has, IMO, certainly "proved" himself as a Democrat. He has been an excellent spokesperson for the party and a great surrogate for Kerry. I no longer see a reason not to trust him or his intentions.

Both Clark and Dean could have gone off and pouted after losing the primaries. Neither did. They both seemed to put what had to be hurt and anger aside and worked their hearts out for the good of the party and the nation.

They share a lot of the same ideals, many of which I agree with.

They're both good men, who want to do good for their country. Just like most of the other Democratic preidential candidates.

But Clark is more handsome, no???

LOL!!!

:hi::evilgrin::hi:

:scared:

or would that throw the thread into fits?

:evilgrin:

We're bad.

:spank:

I can just see the RW freepers spinning this into believing us superficial. LOL

:7 Look at my pic (which I just can't seem to part with ;)) .....handsome doesn't seem to cut it. :loveya:

Don't get me started! LOL!

I just never saw Dean winning a nationwide race. That was the biggest problem I had with him. Not a big problem,in the long run, I don't think.

I love Clark, though. I bet you never would have guessed. ;)

I'll still work my ass of for Wes should he decide to give it a shot in '08, but I must say my respect for Dr. Dean grows daily.

I am hoping he becomes DNC chair - quite frankly it's about the only thing that will keep me in the confines of the Democratic Party as currently constituted. His work with DFA and his efforts to bring about change from the bottom up (hooray! - somebody actually read the Republican "how to" manual) only further my admiration for him.

n/t

though I supported Dean in the primaries.

Is there a new upsurge in infighting?

I don't know whether I'd call myself a supporter of either guy in the hero worshipping sort of way that alot of people around her have but I think that both bring alot to the Democratic Party and in particular was impressed with the fact that both were able to work through their disappointment over the primaries and work hard for the man that beath them.

That shows class and a commitment to a purpose beyond personal ambition.

Checking!

I'm a Clark supporter, but I think Dean would be an outstanding DNC chair, or failing that, I'd love to see a Clark/Dean ticket.

--each has strengths that the other lacks. Clark would be SO-O-O good at international relations and diplomatically ending Bushit's insane war games. Dean would bring out the best of domestic agendas and get the people to support them enthusiastically.

... I like Dean because he's got something 99% of Dem congresspersons don't - a willingness to tell it like it is.

I like Clark because he is the most impressive speaker I've ever heard. I've seen him on 3 TV interviews and in each one he bitch-slapped the whore host and their push-poll questions with grace and ease. His progressive oratory is second to nobody's. He knows his facts and he knows which facts to bring up when. And I have no doubts whatsoever about his sincerity.

Dean for DNC chair, Clark in 2008 - that is how we win.

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And I wish that we had run with them in 2004 instead of the actual ticket.

With Dr Dean as head of the DNC and General Clark as the Democratic Presidential nominee in 2008 we will be in fine shape!

I'm happy that we have two wonderful outspoken democrats who are visible and well regarded.

Just wanted to be part of the thread. :hug:

Both good progressives....

After Dean, my next choice was Clark. I was hoping for a Dean/Clark ticket, or even a Clark/Dean ticket. With the insistence of pushing a pro-military campaign, they would have been much better off with Clark than Kerry.

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and that's what we need (and that's what I like)!

We need to kick some ass...like as of yesterday.

With Democrats like Gen. Wes Clark and Howard Dean .....and MY Senator Boxer totally included, we could just line up the sorry lot of GOP/PNAC bootey and just start kicking them to the curb. And when they try to get up, kick them again.

Give me some Democrats that don't take no sh*t, and I'll show you some winnin' Democrats.

Voters want strong, tough, intelligence to let them know what is really happening and to lead them out of the messotopotamia we are currently in!

AND a uniter :hug:

neeeeeeeee...

Either one would be a vast improvement over what we have now. I would prefer either one as a candidate over the other current field of potential nominees in 2008.

Was a Dean supporter before Clark came on the scene. Liked them both. Still do.

Mz Pip
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If anybody becomes overcome with a spirit of love, unity and togetherness while reading the responses to this post, here's a practical way of demonstrating your feelings:

Write an e-mail to MSNBC because that creep Joe Scarborough just recently took a real cheap shot Wesley Clark. (What am I saying cheap shot for?? He outright lied about him!) Details, link are in this post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1548102


Thank you for your post, Padraig, I'd much rather see us fighting the GOP and Bush than each other.

I'll stop there!

even if I don't agree with them on most issues. Difference of opinion should be celebrated. Clark and Dean are at the top of my like list.

Both are brilliant, apparently fearless, articulate, team players (which I wasn't too sure of after the primaries), and don't just say what they think somebody wants to hear.

Most of all, both have their eyes on the prize: they don't view our struggles as some kind of college rivalry; it's clear they both love our country and will sacrifice a great deal personally to make it a better one.