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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:56 PM
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A Map of the Persian Gulf Region you need to see ! DoD had plans
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 11:35 PM by EVDebs
for deployments all along, it looks like, since this map is already a few years old but shows the planning had to have been in the (pardon the pun) pipeline for awhile.



from the article "Terror war and oil expand US sphere of influence
GIs build bases on Russia's energy-rich flank"

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0319/p01s04-wosc.html

And now that I mention it, the Joint Resolution authorizing war in Iraq http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html
intentionally had language stating "Whereas it is in the national security of the United States to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region" ... Looks like Caspian Sea and Persian Gulf and Eastern Mediterranean and and, well you get the idea.

And now they're sending more troops to Iraq, or was this planned out to happen this way ? Ray McGovern's article "Not Enough Troops – or Truth"

http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern/index.php?articleid=3750 tells us

""But how many troops would be needed to stabilize Iraq? The well-respected International Institute for Strategic Studies in London, before which the president spoke last November, says 500,000. Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki told Congress publicly before the war that "several hundred thousand" troops would be needed. It turns out that he was asking for 400,000, fully aware that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was planning to attack and occupy Iraq with just a fraction of that. Rumsfeld gave him the back of his hand.""

If they knew GOING IN they'd need 500K and only put in 150K, this may have been the anticipated effect...in order to continue putting troops into overseas deployments, since the entire region of the Persian Gulf is 'war zone' with bases all over the place. The blowback is that if they can't neutralize Iraq alone, it begs the question how many troops will be needed for a second front somewhere ?

It's getting drafty.



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eternalburn Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:02 PM
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1. Grand Chessboard (nt)
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:07 PM
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2. Zbigniew K. Brzezinski

Zbigniew K. Brzezinski

Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives
Zbigniew K. Brzezinski

 From the Publisher
The heart of The Grand Chessboard is Brzezinski's analysis of the four critical regions of Eurasia and of the stakes for America in each arena - Europe, Russia, Central Asia, and East Asia. The crucial fault lines may seem familiar, but the implosion of the Soviet Union has created new rivalries and new relationships, and Brzezinski maps out the strategic ramifications of the new geopolitical realities.
 Synopsis
This geopolitical strategist and former national security adviser offers a new global vision for securing American preeminence into the next century. Includes maps and tables.
 From The Critics
Publisher's Weekly
Not everyone will agree that the U.S. must "perpetuate own dominant position for at least a generation and preferably longer," but former National Security Adviser Brzezinski offers a meticulously detailed argument for how and why we should. He begins with a quick review of every empire in history and how they compare with America, which he concludes is the first truly global power. He then argues that "Eurasia is... the chessboard on which the struggle for global primacy continues to be played," and moves on to equally brief but comprehensive accounts of political developments there, ranging over entire histories and concluding with how America can best balance power in the region. While it seems overly ambitious to attempt to cover this much ground in a short work, Brzezinski succeeds. He is less convincing, however, when he strays from geopolitics and claims that America is internally threatened by being "fixated on mass entertainment... heavily dominated by hedonistic and socially escapist themes." Those who are uncomfortable with his initial premise will be relieved by his conclusion: America's ultimate destiny is to give up its primacy in exchange for "an enduring framework of global geopolitical cooperation." (Oct.)

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?isbn=0465027261>http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearc...isbn=0465027261

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BIOGRAPHY: Brzezinski, holding a 1953 Ph.D. from Harvard, lists the following achievements:
Counselor, Center for Strategic and International Studies
Professor of American Foreign Policy, Johns Hopkins University
National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter (1977-81)
Trustee and founder of the Trilateral Commission
International advisor of several major US/Global corporations
Associate of Henry Kissinger
Under Ronald Reagan - member of NSC-Defense Department Commission on Integrated Long-Term Strategy
Under Ronald Reagan - member of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board
Past member, Board of Directors, The Council on Foreign Relations
1988 - Co-chairman of the Bush National Security Advisory Task Force.
Brzezinski is also a past attendee and presenter at several conferences of the Bilderberger group - a non-partisan affiliation of the wealthiest and most powerful families and corporations on the planet.

------------------------------
A War in the Planning for Four Years: HOW STUPID DO THEY THINK WE ARE?
Zbigniew Brzezinski and the CFR Put War Plans In a 1997 Book

It Is "A Blueprint for World Dictatorship," Says a Former German Defense and NATO Official Who Warned of Global Domination in 1984,
in an Exclusive Interview With FTW
by
Michael C. Ruppert

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/zbig.html>http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/zbig.html
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:13 PM
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3. Google Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce
and check the players.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:29 PM
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4. The Usual Suspects.....
Is there anywhere oil is that they aren't?
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theresistance Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:38 PM
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5. Nothing new here except that the pipeline
through Afghanistan is now in the pipeline:
http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/ap/2005/01/18/ap1764703.html

It's clear American companies were after the Caspian oil since the 1990's, and then 911 and the invasion of Afghanistan. This is why so many people are questioning the whole thing.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:20 AM
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6. Has anyone seen this?
James Baker, Scowcroft and Brzezinski are calling for withdrawal of troops in Iraq? I guess they need them for Iran?


http://www.counterpunch.org/whitney01272005.html
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:25 PM
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7. Baker, Scowcroft and Brzezinski
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 04:28 PM by cosmicdot
are part of the "Honorary Council of Advisors" of the United States-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce http://www.usacc.org
(see post 3's suggested Google)
as are: Lloyd Bentsen; Henry Kissinger; and John Sununu

Dick Cheney and Richard Armitage are "former" members of the adivsory council and board of directors


http://elitewatch.911review.org/USACC.html

the map key probably could use dotted lines to the USACC.org, the Council on Foreign Policy which has had a Caspian pipeline project for several years; and, Cheney's 2001 Energy Task Force

"Welcome to the Council's archived hyperforum on the Caspian Sea. This site was build and hosted in 1998 - 1999 to facilitate an online debate on the Caspian Sea Region, with the goal of formulating a set of recommendations for U.S. Policy."
http://www.treemedia.com/cfrlibrary/# http://www.treemedia.com/cfrlibrary/library/library.html



Map from CFR archived hyperforum on the Caspian Sea

Map: "Existing and Proposed Oil and Gas Export Routes from the Caspian Region"

"Oil Politics: America and the Riches of the Caspian Basin" by
Ian Bremmer World Policy Journal, vol 15, no. 1, Spring 1998
http://www.treemedia.com/cfrlibrary/library/policy/bremmer.html
(Iran is discussed: "Washington does not want Caspian oil to pass through Iran.")




Participating people/organizations in the CFR's Caspian Sea Forum:

http://www.treemedia.com/cfrlibrary/homepage/participants/participants.html
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