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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:19 PM
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Bush is going to get burnt over Katrina - paybacks are h*ll...
CNN just had a survivor on who just ripped them for lack of preparedness for a Cat 5 hurricane. I wonder what will happen when Americans find out Bush cut funds so they COULDN'T prepare.

This Administration has a LOT to answer for. I feel like I'm watching events in a 3rd world country in the aftermath of Katrina, but that's EXACTLY what BushCo wants. Bush is probably laughing like mad in the White House because this Administration has FINALLY achieved their goals in turning us into a 3rd world country. The oil barons are stuffing $$$ into their swiss accounts, Bush is raking in the cash from his fat cat cronies, and the American people are suffering in ways we haven't since the Great Depression.

I'm watching the total destruction of my country. I'm so angry there are no words to describe it.

Our government is totally incompetent, ineffective, and useless. At a bare MINIMUM, we need to toss those SOBs out on their can, and best case scenario would be to prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law and force them to repay the American people for the looting and damage they've caused.

I'm so angry I have no words.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:22 PM
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1. We need to keep drilling the point (NO pun intended): They played it
too close to the edge and we lost.
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BrendaStarr Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:36 PM
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8. Yes, but we need to drill the point
'Where the rest of America is.

Our liberal forums are good, but we are just a small part of America.

The rest of America only gets to know what TV news and the Bush adminsitration say (mostly).

If we don't want this to turn into a praise fest like after 9/11 get to mixed forums with every minute you can spare and tell people there the truth, that Bush defunded the construction and planning for emergency evacuation that the Army Corps of Engineer would have done especially since the war on Iraq started.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001051313
    Over the next 10 years , the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to subside.

    Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars.

    Newhouse News Service, in an article posted late Tuesday night at The Times-Picayune Web site, reported: "No one can say they didn't see it coming. ... Now in the wake of one of the worst storms ever, serious questions are being asked about the lack of preparation."

    In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain, according to a Feb. 16, 2004, article, in New Orleans CityBusiness.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:23 PM
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2. ...
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:23 PM
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3. Oh, so they cut emergency preparedness funding
Big schmeal! It's time to move on to more important things, like permanently repealing the estate tax so that folks like Paris Hilton don't have to face the prospect of a future with only a large pile of inherited money instead of a heueueueueuge pile of inherited money.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:25 PM
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5. very little seems to rub off on him
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marew Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:25 PM
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4. Don't you know, the little people are expendable. Did you
see the news the other day? The percentage of people living in poverty went up for the 4th straight year. And the rich got bigger tax breaks. People are so stupid. As my grandmother used to say, "None are so blind as THOSE WHO WILL NOT SEE."
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:28 PM
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6. bush enabled the disaster to be as extensive as it is
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pauldavid Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:29 PM
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7. Go look at bush poll Numbers after 9/11
This could go either way. I thought the same thing about 9/11. I thought that having this kind of thing happen on his watch would hurt him as people would blame him... didn't go that way though. If he plays it right(wrong) it could give his nubers a bounce. The upside, I think, is that they were planning on using this 9/11 to give him a bounce. This story is not going to fade by then and this will be hard to connect back to the war on terror. If, at least, it keeps him from bouncing back via the anniversary of 9/11 then there may indeed be no way for him to pull out of his nose dive in the polls, and therefore burn him badly.
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:37 PM
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9. I think the mood of the country is MUCH different now than post 9/11.
People are ALREADY mad at Bush. This just adds to the unrest. Bush is clueless, and he totally ignores how the public feels. In short, he gives us the finger.

He's going to hit the wall VERY soon, and the American people are going to hold him accountable for what he's done.

I talked to a lot of Republicans who said the government should have kept hands off in the Great Depression. I think they're soon going to experience why that political philosophy is dead wrong. Civil unrest is not pretty.
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pauldavid Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:43 PM
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11. I hope you are right
I hope we have turned a corner. I hope he is hitting the wall. remeber though, his number were about this low going into 9/11 th. I guess the good news, whatever is going on with the rove propoganda machine, mabye dealing with plamegate, they seem to have lost it. Maybe they will screw this up like they have everything since terry schiavo.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:41 PM
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10. No. He won't get a bump from this. His gutting of funds, moving the NG
overseas, not stepping in and pushing for evacuation, not doing seomthing useful at all until now....

No, people aren't gonna let him get away with that unless they are fundies.
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pauldavid Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:52 PM
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14. "His gutting of funds, moving the NG"
We are hearing this stuff in the leftist blog sphere, but will the M$M pick up on it? If the "Average People" never hear about what he does, they wont put blame on him.

<rant>They are going to launce a full out political "hurricane" tonight. It really is sink or swim for them. They HAVE to use this to their advantage. It is HORRIBLE that we need to say "game on" in a national tragedy, but that is what bush is going to say at 5:00 pm today. We need to make sure our game up to speed to keep them from politicizing this tragedy to their advantage. This is Bush's fault. We need to let everyone know that. Forget "solidarity." Forget "Pulling the nation together in a times like these" The right has been in full out attack mode for a DECADE. They will atack us on this. We have to be able to return fire.</rant> :rant:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 04:51 PM
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15. It is obvious that the NG isn't home in full-force. I think the funding
issues and poor planning will be talked about as well.
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pauldavid Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 04:56 PM
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16. I agree
I think that is will stick out to the media and the people.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:48 PM
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12. I can't imagine him
getting off scott free this time. These people have a right to be pissed. Some aide of his probably reminded him that he cut their funds, and that's the ONLY reason he's giving up 2 days of his ranch-play to show his face there.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:49 PM
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13. Someone needs to get this mesage to the people of
New Orleans so the * can see what accountability feels like.
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